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17 February 2016

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This edit by Sandyanne to Shiva Ayyadurai caught my attention as the content added was already present in Mattsabe's sandbox. They have both also added copyvios to articles e.g. Sandyanne:   and MattSabe:. MattSabe has previously created CytoSolve which was about a company founded by Ayyadurai and is drafting a new version as well as another article about a company founded by him. Then we have Robsweet1975 who's also added copyvios:, and added content from Mattsabe's sandbox to the Ayyadurai article. They've also added content relating to him to other articles:. SmartSE (talk) 13:31, 17 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I missed this before but now I realise Petemclaren also looks suspicious: historically, they've made many edits to Ayyadurai toning down negative info and linked from other articles  . As with the others, they recently copied from Mattsabe's sandbox. The diff is tricky to check, but it copied the content from the last part of the first paragraph of the lead. As with the others, the sandbox diff is before the content was first added to the main article. Some of this edit is also copied from the reuters source. They are also drafting an article about another of Ayyadurai's businesses. SmartSE (talk) 16:57, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Not as convincing as the others, but of the five edits Chloeridge has made, two added content related to Ayyadurai:  and the others displayed a shared interest in adding copyvio to Gun violence in the United States alongside Robsweet1975. SmartSE (talk) 17:53, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

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Spotted, a brand new user making an edit that is promoting GMO research by Shiva Ayyadurai. Looks like some content of that edit was from the User:Mattsabe/sandbox. --65.242.18.131 (talk) 08:47, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure what a sock puppet is, but am new to Wikipedia. and an Indian who has heard Dr. Shiva speak in Jaipur last year when he moderated a historic debate on GMOs at India's prestigious government run agricultural institute(http://www.ahuja-foundation.org/2015/10/we-care-about-mother-earth.html ), and have been very interested in his work. I want to contribute to Wikipedia. I read his interview on Tamilnadu.com, http://tamilnadu.com/entertainment/personalities/interview-with-dr-v-a-shiva-ayyadurai-the-inventor-of-email-and-systems-scientist.html#comment-180, where someone had commented giving access to the Wikipedia Sandbox page, from which I added a citation, which I thought was well researched. I did not know this was a violation Concerning my addition to GMO controversies page, I had initially posted something that was removed. I did not know that I had to post on the Talk page, before Undoing and re-editing. So, I am now posting on the Talk page. Kindly forgive my lack of understanding the process. It will not happen again. Concerning my recent edit, I did do the research on his work and believe I was fair. I also included Smartse's EFSA posting(https://efsa.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.2903/sp.efsa.2015.EN-885) to balance my response. This is not promotional but the facts about Dr. Ayyadurai's work, which have now been widely shared in the media. Please tell me what I need to do properly to get this included. I had not intention of it being promotional, but what I felt important to share on a GMO controversy on Soy that is going on. Thank you. --User:Robsweet1975 (talk) 07:25pm, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

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 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * is but.
 * is ❌.
 * Blocked/tagged the confirmed socks.--Bbb23 (talk) 05:07, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Based on the addition by 65.242.18.131, Bioitresearch is ✅, blocked, and tagged.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:59, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Confirmed socks blocked and tagged. Closing. Katietalk 19:08, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * This one shouldn't have been closed without the behavioral analysis asked above by .  Vanjagenije  (talk)  21:54, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Argh. I did that. Jeevanantham Karunanithi seems to edit Indian film articles and actors related to them, while the sockmaster and his puppets edit GMO and science articles. I do not believe they are related. Katietalk 22:30, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked/tagged the confirmed socks.--Bbb23 (talk) 05:07, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Based on the addition by 65.242.18.131, Bioitresearch is ✅, blocked, and tagged.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:59, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Confirmed socks blocked and tagged. Closing. Katietalk 19:08, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * This one shouldn't have been closed without the behavioral analysis asked above by .  Vanjagenije  (talk)  21:54, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Argh. I did that. Jeevanantham Karunanithi seems to edit Indian film articles and actors related to them, while the sockmaster and his puppets edit GMO and science articles. I do not believe they are related. Katietalk 22:30, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

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This user has been editing the Shiva Ayyadurai in a similar way to the previous socks to downplay that he incorrectly claimed to have invented email :. Compare that to this edit by the master:.

Looking through older edits to email he removed parts from the article to make it so that Ayyadurai appeared to be the first person to use email:. The old accounts will be stale by now, but I think the this behavioural evidence is pretty convincing (there is off-wiki evidence as well, that I can share via email if necessary). SmartSE (talk) 15:13, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' , curiously enough, has a similar looking set of contribs to - a few uncontroversial then outpourings of fury on Talk:Shiva Ayyadurai, a similar inability to format talk page contributions, and can't spell my username in the same way in edits moments apart. Pure coincidence, I daresay. Pinkbeast (talk) 01:04, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I've added YatesByron to the list just in case, as they continue to post on their talk page.  — Gestrid  ( talk ) 01:30, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Pinkbeast (talk) 02:02, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, requested CU to link the two possible sockpuppets together, not necessarily to link them to the possible sockmaster. As  has noted, the sockmaster is stale.  —  Gestrid  ( talk ) 02:04, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Independently from this investigation, was blocked indefinitely from editing for making legal threats or taking legal action by  01:00, 11 November 2016 (UTC). —  Jeff G. ツ (talk)   13:49, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

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 * - Katietalk 13:44, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * ❌. Closing. Katietalk 13:48, 11 November 2016 (UTC)