Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/MezzoMezzo/Archive

11 May 2013

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Both these users have same type of language even with the use of same words.both participate together in discussions.if someone question to one user other’s interruption is sure.even they share same topics to edit.There are some behavioural activities which prove that they are not different but a same person.

Below are some strong evidences of addition of same word to word text. something added by some user 1 (added something with an authentic refrence)
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removed by user MezzoMezzo 2 History: Am Not New, the reference is authentic but your language isn't totally neutral, and the information was already available in the section; please focus more on your composition)

again added with some modification by some user 3 (now it is nutral and clear.)

removed by user lukeno94 this time with same objection 4 (Reverted 1 edit by Am Not New (talk): No, the English is still so poor that I can't understand it.

again this type of behaviour
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added something by a user 1 (Terrorism heading is 100% relevant and important.MezzoMezzo you have added here minute details of events to show it in bad light and now opposing highly relevant heading)

removed by lukeno94 2 (Reverted 6 edits by Msoamu (talk): All of these edits have gone against consensus.

again added by user mosamu 3 (Now there is consensus,In Terrorism heading at least.also i have demanded RS for blatant MezzoMezzo's POV)

again added by user MezzoMezzo with same objection as did by user lukeno94 4 (You have been told by more than one editor that consensus has been established on a number of these points. You are, once again, editing against consensus. STOP fighting with your peers and discuss things on talk first)

again such type of behaviour
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removed something by some user 1

again added by lukeno94 2

some part added by user MezzoMezzo 3

again removed by user mosamu 4

again lukeno94 reverted the edit 5

again text replaced by user MezzoMezzo 6

another behavioural evidence
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MezzoMezzo added some contents 1

removed and modified by user mosamu in three edits 2

again 3 edits revert by user lekeno94 3

another behavioural evidence
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added contents by user MezzoMezzo 1

Removed by user mosamu 2

again added my user lukeno94 3

small changes by user MezzoMezzo and lukeno94 in two edits 4

now another user removed that contents 5

again added the same contents by user lukeno94 6

There are some users which have not any strong behavioural evidences but sometimes seams to be.checkuser can add them in his investigation if they like these are User:GorgeCustersSabre User:Darkness Shines User:Pass a Method

Another thing which I noted Here user lukeno94 used the word CSGU for a user User:Child Star Grown Up.which is also used by a user User:Qwyrxian here.

I bet that these users are sockpuppet and for sure there will be more accounts of these users which they are using for bad purpose.

Note numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6 in texts are links and in brackets are comments on edit made by editor. Ghulam Mehar Ali (talk) 06:43, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

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 * Well isn't this amusing. I've been waiting for such an investigation, and if it's what is required to get Child Star Grown Up and/or Msoamu, of which this user is almost certainly a sock of, to go away, then feel free to run a CU. I have absolutely nothing to hide, and it should be obvious to anyone that we aren't the same person - since when did MezzoMezzo have quite a clear interest in motor racing, for example? This SPI should WP:BOOMERANG quite nicely. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 07:30, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Haha, this is rich. Let's do it then, I'm down. I'll inform all my other "suckpuppets" while we're at it. MezzoMezzo (talk) 07:47, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Ironically, that's one spelling mistake that this particular user, whom I'm 99.9999999999999% sure is CSGU, didn't make. Interesting to note that they've made 5 edits; 4 to their userspace, 1 here. This has genuinely made my morning. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 07:50, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Well wait it will be visible soon *How Innocent you are*.Why are you so surprized if there is nothing to hide.Ghulam Mehar Ali (talk) 08:16, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Where did you get the impression that either of us was surprised? From what I can see, we've both supported the CU, to prove how baseless this is, Child Star Grown Up/Am Not New/Ghulam Mehar Ali. If you're going to try and get revenge on editors who found out your socking, then this is probably the daftest way of doing it - with a brand-new account that hadn't even edited in mainspace before this SPI... Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 08:38, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


 * It may be worth noting that an IP, 119.154.11.196, has made an edit accusing MezzoMezzo of POV-pushing... I think it appears to be more of CSGU's style than Msoamu's, but *shrugs* Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 08:58, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * This SPI is based on Strong Behavioural evidences.Don't Forget those evidences.Leave it to checkuser even your claim to relate me to another user is baseless..I don't have anything to hide waiting For checkuser.Ghulam Mehar Ali (talk) 09:38, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Just because I have sometimes defended MezzoMezzo from overly harsh criticism at times from editors with an axe to grind does not mean that I AM him! That is ridiculous and baseless. I have made over 16,000 edits, few of which are on the same pages as him. Go through my 16,000 edits and you will see that, in fact, the two main pages which we both edit are the Barelvi and Deobandi pages. That's evidence of me being a sockpuppet? Really? Check those pages again. You'll notice that he used to revert some of my own edits. George Custer&#39;s Sabre (talk) 09:47, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * In addition, I'm an editor with well over 4000 edits, and very few of them (100 tops?) relate to this area. Everything GMA writes links them more and more to CSGU. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 09:49, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow. Seriously, this must have taken hours to pull together, gathering and formatting all of those diffs. I actually kind of feel sorry that you think that this had any chance of "success" in getting us to stop acting as good, neutral Wikipedia editors. GMA, or whatever your original name is, did you really think you'd convince anybody of this? Here's a hint for the next time you want to do this: make at least several thousand competent, high-quality edits first before trying to take revenge--it will make your claims more believable. I'm fairly certain that in my many years as an editor and later admin, I've never seen a new account immediately jump into some sort of request for sanctions be successful. As we say on the drama boards, beware the WP:BOOMERANG. Qwyrxian (talk) 09:57, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Wow! both of these users gathered too many users there to distort the sight of check user.Look at evidences first.This blatent story of CSGP is just to distort the sight of checkuser.BTW!why are you so excited.Ghulam Mehar Ali (talk) 10:30, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * What? You named these users yourself... Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 10:46, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


 * So not only is it possible that Ghulam whateverhisname is is also TRUST on Allah - who himself was a sockpuppet of Child Star Grown Up, along with Am Not New - but now Ghulam is actually canvassing for...well, I couldn't really imagine what he wants to achieve at this point. See here, here, here, here and here. I have to ask, would a CU of Ghulam Meher Ali with Child Star Grown Up and Msoamu's various sock accounts also be possible based on behavioral evidence viewable at Sockpuppet investigations/Msoamu/Archive? MezzoMezzo (talk) 12:22, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - I think a CU on Ghulam Mehar Ali may be more appropriate, to see if he's a returning user with an axe to grind. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 08:53, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It's that this user is Trust on ALLAH.  Salvio Let's talk about it! 10:34, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Contribs make this very likely, blocked as such. Dennis Brown - 2¢  © Join WER 12:30, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Closing. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 22:33, 11 May 2013 (UTC)