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09 February 2014

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Account created on 2 Feb 2014, goes straight to Orthodox Presbyterian Church and argues with and reverts from the start. 's account is created on 8 Feb 2014 and goes straight to the same page and takes the same side. Then Katsa54 attacks some super-obscure article by StAnselm, John Calvin's view of Scripture, which had not been edited since October 2013 before yesterday. Katsa54 does wholesale reversions, making semiplausible claims of OR, but refusing to discuss and refusing to accept any of StAnselm's additions of secondary sources, to the point where Katsa54 gets itself blocked for edit warring. After Katsa54 is blocked, Mg3942 and the IP show up and take up the same battle on this very obscure article with the same style of wholesale reverts, nonspecific accusations of "original research" and, not only that, but the same flawed style of indentation for their talk page comments, making it seem very likely that they're all the same user. Given the recency of the two named accounts, it seems likely that actually both are socks of some more established user, but I don't know right now who that might be. &mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 14:50, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Diffs of Katsa54's relevant edits can be found in the WP:EWN discussion: EWN. I will supply more diffs if requested, but they can be seen easily in the recent history of the pages involved. This is not a subtle case:



Note: I added because in this edit, this IP responds to my response to  and uses the same idiosyncratic indentation style and spelling of "St Anselm."&mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 17:08, 9 February 2014 (UTC) &mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 15:01, 9 February 2014 (UTC)


 * essentially admits on Talk:John Calvin's view of Scripture that those are all his/her edits. Regardless, the real question is about, because those two named accounts are supporting one another's edits on that article.&mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 16:58, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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I am not using Sockpuppets. alf laylah wa laylah has it out for me for insisting that Wikipedia's policy against Original Research be enforced fairly and evenly. I work at a place in which we rotate computers all the time. A few times I have forgotten to sign in when I get to a new computer. This is not sockpuppetry. If you view the talk page on "John Calvin's View of Scripture" you will get a good sense of what is going on. alf laylah wa laylah is trying to rub out any voice that disagrees with him/her. alf laylah wa laylah hates original research when it disagrees with her, but has no problem with it when it confirms her biases. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mg3942 (talk • contribs) 11:20, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: In this edit, admits to being User:Mg3942. Edits were made from that IP to Orthodox Presbyterian Church a few weeks ago. Were they Mg3942 as well? The thing I would like to know is precisely which IP edits at Talk:Orthodox Presbyterian Church and Talk:John Calvin's view of Scripture belong to Mg3942. They should all be clearly marked as such. Certainly an impression has been created of multiple parties agreeing with the user in question.In particular, at Talk:Orthodox Presbyterian Church, there is an ongoing RfC with !votes from, , , , and . StAnselm (talk) 20:19, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
— Berean Hunter   (talk)  15:38, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * - to confirm socking. The master's edit matches the sock's edit. Additionally, edit summaries are telling.
 * As far as I can see the IPs are all  static and don't  even locate to  the same countries. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:05, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The IPs are all registered to YHC Corporation or YHC International, whoever that is. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 19:45, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The named accounts are ✅ matches to one another. Except for the above, . ​—DoRD (talk)​ 19:51, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I've blocked the master for two weeks and the sock indef and semi-protected their targets. Closing now. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:11, 11 February 2014 (UTC)