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There are so many involved it's hard to keep everything straight. It appears Donairpizza9999 may now be the driving puppeteer, but that role appears to have shifted from Americanmoviecritic and MichaelQSchmidt at different points in time. This coversation: Articles for deletion/Barry J. Gillis and this one Articles for deletion/THINGS (1989) in addition to this Suspected_sock_puppets/L.L.King_(2nd) glaringly demonstrate sockpuppetry. The user contributions of most of these accounts start with their first edit being a keep vote in an articles for deletion discussion (and very little else). Vortexxxx has made 4 lifetime edits; the first one ever was to support a keep during an AfD discussion. . Elohor20 has made a total of 13 edits; the first 3 made were to weigh in on an AfD discussion. This diff shows an autosign for Donairpizza999 being overwritten by Jasminhhh with the excuse that they're roommates, but they use separate computers, but the other was still logged in on their own computer. . . The edit history also shows multiple editors were working on the same article now up for deletion (while it was still in MichaelQSchmidt's user sandbox). Americanmoviecritic, Donairpizza9999 , in addition to this note left by one puppet to the puppet master, where the puppet titles the conversation, "I have used one of your quotes over at the discussion as MichaelQSchmidt" (my italics added) , which seems very odd wording. I can't think of a time I've messaged someone and said, I've quoted you, as you.  Orville1974  (talk) 05:30, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I added details below, but this same issue has been raised under another SPI request by another editor here: .  Orville1974  (talk) 16:38, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

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 * This diff here by admits that he/she and  are roommates and live in the same house (and obviously share the same computer given the diff). This means that the Donairpizza9999 account is technically compromised since Jasminhhhh was able to edit under that account (even if it was accidental), and I've blocked the Donairpizza9999 indefinitely as a result for security purposes. I'm still digging through the pages listed by the reporting user to understand the information and evidence presented, but I don't understand why Orville1974 believes that the sock master is . Just because these other suspected sock puppet accounts made edits to a page that was originally located in MichaelQSchmidt's user space doesn't mean that MichaelQSchmidt is connected. I don't see that fact as sufficient evidence.  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   06:17, 6 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Orville1974, can you explain and elaborate on this further so that I understand? Can you detail exactly why you believe that MichaelQSchmidt is connected with these other accounts? Diffs would be helpful.
 * .&#32;In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this.


 * Thanks -  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   06:39, 6 June 2019 (UTC)


 * The and  accounts haven't edited since June 2009 - that's 10 years ago. These two accounts are beyond stale, and no action would be taken against them because of this.  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   06:35, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * After a much deeper dive, I've come across conversations on Americanmoviecritic's talk page that lead me to believe that MichaelQSchmidt is not a puppet or master. He did suspect Americanmoviecritic, Vortexxxx, and Barryjedmonton (now Donairpizza9999) of puppetry at the time, though, on a closely-related AfD.


 * It now appears that Barryjedmonton (now Donairpizza9999 due to a name change) is the puppetmaster.
 * Vortexxxx and Americanmoviecritic stopped editing on 9 June 2009. Donairpizza/Barryjedmonton stopped editing on 6 June 2009 (one of his last edits on 6 June 2009 was weighing in on a closely-related AfD ) before returning 10 years later on 1 June 2019, that's why I believe there is a connection.  The purpose of including Vortexxxx and Americanmovecritic was to show a very similar trend regarding similar user accounts.  I understand the accounts are extraordinarily stale, and didn't expect action to be taken on them, but what are the chances Donairpizza9999/Barryjedmonton pops up almost 10 years to the day later on a closely-related article where sockpuppetry was suspected?  And when he does, his username (Donairpizza9999) ends in 4 repeating characters (9999) just like Vortexxxx (4 XXXXs).  Then his roommate Jasminehhhh (4 HHHHs), who has a very short edit history makes changes to a KISS article, around the time Donairpizza9999 states KISS is one of his favorite bands.  I believe Donairpizza9999, Jaminehhhh, Vortexxxx, 68.149.101.0 (this IP edited Donairpizza999's comment, then Donairpizza999 went in and overwrote it with his signature)  , 68.148.2.120 (Americanmoviecritic signing an edit by the IP saying he's deleting his account since he's been accused of sockpuppetry and Americanmoviecritic are all puppets.
 * As for Eloher20, this editor only popped up for a single day and hasn't been back since. His first 3 of 13 edits were to the AfD discussion.  His edits to other articles were actually errors where he was trying to insert a reference into the Barry J. Gillis article, but mistakenly added, then removed it from two other articles before putting it in the right place .  Once he weighed in on the AfD and got the citation in the right place, he hasn't returned since.  Considering there are multiple other puppets in this AfD discussion with really short edit histories, I suspect Eloher20 of being one as well.
 * I know this is a lot of history, but the coincidence is pretty compelling.  Orville1974  (talk) 14:04, 6 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Jasminhhhh and Donairpizza9999 are both indef blocked. Americanmoviecritic and Vortexxxx haven't edited in 10 years. I don't see any technical link between the blocked "roomates" and Elohor20. Attempting to pin these accounts on a Wikipedia admin with over 60k edits is...not well thought out. I'm closing this report as no further action needed.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 23:26, 10 June 2019 (UTC)