Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Michael Paul Heart/Archive

09 January 2012

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I'm filing this for the record, so to speak, since the account of what I deem to be the real master, User:Hermitstudy, is stale. CU evidence tied Tille Jean and Benjamin to MPH in May 2011, LittleOldMan to MPH in November 2011, and Sniperscout to LittleOldMan in January 2012.

They are most active on Tachash, with sidesteps to Ark of the Covenant. There is an archived SPI case on the suspected master, Sockpuppet investigations/Hermitstudy.

See also Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Michael Paul Heart.

Note: please modify this if I'm not following the proper format, left something out, or did something redundant Drmies (talk) 20:48, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

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 * All of the accounts and IPs here are blocked, so we're done. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 04:27, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

29 January 2012

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SPA adding text to Tachash with wordy edit summaries: 1 Pontificalibus (talk) 16:27, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

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✅ as being the same as. TN X Man 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 16:52, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

25 September 2014

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(see also Sockpuppet investigations/Hermitstudy/Archive) Edits to Tachash/Tahash in exactly the same vein as the previous socks. e.g. this series of edits. Identical posting style on talk page e.g. italic signoff phrases etc...compare the style of this with all of this. Pontificalibus (talk) 16:41, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' PAGE ]] ) 20:11, 26 September 2014 (UTC) PAGE ]] ) 15:36, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
 * If it's not Heart again, I'd be damned surprised. The nonsense at Tahash is in essence a bypassing of the redirect at Tachash (which subsequently got updated to point to Tahash). I further suspect that the content at Tahash is, as a result, in essence a copy-paste move (or an unattributed derivative work) of Tachash. —/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 13:02, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Cleverly done--or, this admin was stupid enough to leave Tachash unprotected. Yes, if this isn't our OldManUnretired I'll be a monkey's uncle. Drmies (talk) 14:13, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I've added to the list. What stood out immediately was the "I wish you well" phrase--here by the Researcher and here by Espresso. I invite you also to note the similarities between Holy Order of Mans, a ridiculously inflated article, and our current article. The unusual box quotes, for instance, are the same (both have a lead ending with one). Compare also the instances of italicized "see" and "compare" in Tahash and Holy Order. LittleOldManRetired, one of Heart's socks, reinstated this version of Tachash--compare that to Holy Order and see how they use bold print and italics in the footnotes in the same way, and how both have Strong's Exhaustive Concordance on the shelf. Check note 88 in Tachash and note 90 in Holy Order. This is the same editor. I hope CU can come by quickly--I'm about to gut that Holy Order article. Perhaps  wants to look at it before it's pruned. Drmies (talk) 14:36, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Agh. I looked at it and my brain almost exploded. No, I do not want to do anything with mess, or with the articles on unicorns/badgers/ etc. Thanks but no thanks. Dougweller (talk) 18:22, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I will add that Espresso-con-pana's actions have indeed been suspicious. I tried cleaning up the Tahash article a bit, but Espresso added a bunch of content with the same awkwardly worded citations which he said was a merge from the "Badger Skins" article that he had conveniently printed out before it was deleted (including, apparently, the source code including the references). I'm willing to assume good faith until a checkuser has a closer look, but it is suspicious. --Ahecht ( [[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK
 * Now we're just being trolled: . Even if I suspend disbelief and accept that a 12-year-old monitor and printer somehow print out the wikimarkup of each link, I am having a hard time assuming good faith and believing that someone that has mastered wikimarkup including links, ref tags, bullets, and signatures, HTML markup, using article and user talk pages, templates, etc, and knows how use search engines enough to find all these various sources, but wouldn't know how to copy and paste and instead uses a sharpie (what, no pens or pencils available?) to copy down text and retype it. --Ahecht ( [[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK
 * And there's an instance of Godwin's Law in that screed as well. Lovely. —/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 20:19, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, at least I'm not a Nazi, like you and In ictu oculi. Drmies (talk) 00:19, 29 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Evidently the same socks. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:43, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Anyone who remembers Ta(c)hash will see Heart's fingerprints all over this--"article". Drmies (talk) 14:48, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * And I have a clincher: an esoteric book by the "Zoo Rabbi", Natan Slifkin, linked (in the same way) in Tachash from 2011 and Researcher's early draft of Tahash, and here is Espresso tweaking that citation. BTW, the citation to Slifkin was introduced here by, a sock of Hermitstudy, which is Paul Michael Heart. Drmies (talk) 15:07, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note that CU hasn't been requested here. While initially I don't think one would have been particularly helpful (the old accounts would surely be stale), now that we've got two we should get a CU to connect them... as well as check for sleepers. And the issue with Tachash: someone left Tahash unprotected, our friend recreated his article at Tahash, and apparently someone thought it was a good idea to change the protected Tachash redirect to point to Tahash. I'm not sure where, if anywhere, the request for that was made. —/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 14:44, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Huon changed it. I've moved everything back now, and protected the other redirect as well, the chink in our armor. Drmies (talk) 00:29, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment by Espresso-con-pana
You have all been put to a lot of trouble over the simple fact that תחש has been a source of controversy. This version was a reasonably brief, solidly sourced article. No big deal. But an excluding POV has prevailed,, as I explain here: Mystery of Tahash reverts solved!. That's all I have to say. If I'm allowed to stay, I'll go back to editing film articles that need improvement. Thanks. --Espresso-con-pana (talk) 15:15, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Addendum re Holy Order of Mans: Delete it, guys! It's been fifty years. I doubt anyone could possibly be interested. I was a member, but I learned some sense. When I found the original article, I attempted to expose what it didn't say. I'm delighted that someone wants to "gut it". "Just do it!" --Espresso-con-pana (talk) 17:54, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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 * A note for the clerk/CU. Please look again at the comment by (10 January 2012) on Sockpuppet investigations/Hermitstudy/Archive ( made a few related blocks as well). I think we need either a merge of this with Hermitstudy, or some handy head notes. I had completely forgotten about Hermitstudy and only remembered after I tracked down some edits to Tabernacle and found that SPI. See User:Humaniphilon: the sock category is a redlink, and I'd like to have this paperwork nice and in order. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:13, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * After looking at this, there is no doubt in my mind anymore. I'm going to delete that tripe (basically a copy of the old Ta(c)hash) as a creation by a de facto banned editor, Hermitstudy/Paul Michael Heart--first edit made by IP 63.153.254.80, which redirects to Des Moines Iowa (like the IPs on the Hermitstudy SPI). Drmies (talk) 15:20, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * and are ✅ to each other and are editing from the same city and ISP as Michael Paul Heart and his various socks.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  20:29, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Both sock accounts blocked and tagged.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:13, 1 October 2014 (UTC)