Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mike Mike/Archive

06 March 2016

 * Suspected sockpuppets




 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
 * Editor interaction utility

Similar phrasing, even identical wording. For example: starting discussions with "Dear friend" without a comma (Mike Mike 12James Alltheway 12) and closing with "Best regards" or "Best" (Mike Mike 123James Alltheway 12). Mike Mike had contributed significantly to an article on Yannis Livadas, which was deleted by Malcolmxl5, and James Alltheway's first edits were to User talk:Malcolmxl5. There may be other accounts as well. As noted in the AfD, the first (deleted) version of Yannis Livadas by User:John Blante contained a copyvio of his bibliography, just as the version by James Alltheway appears to. (Or did. I've tagged the article for speedy deletion.) James Alltheway also mentioned visiting the Teahouse, but this could simply mean that he read questions and answers at the Teahouse, not that he edited there on a different account. Woodroar (talk) 21:34, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Comments by other users
''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.''

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - Both extensively editing Yannis Livadas.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  20:21, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅. The master, who created an account in 2013, has very few edits and has been pushing Livadas from the get-go. Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:35, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



 * Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

Their contibutional pattern (at de/WP included contributions in de/WP) leaves no doubt that it is the new sock of Mike Μike, the "succesor" to the globaly indef. locked accounts Adratiatic20 and Openview30. These accounts are mostly promoting in several WPs the poet Yannis Livadas and/or pushing his views and POV, especially against other writers (see also this CU request). BachelorOne's pattern follow this line, and this edit esp. is a personal attack on a "rival" of Livadas Greek poet and translator, based on a couple of blog uploads, one of them singed by Yannis Livadas ! ǁ ǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 (talk) 11:13, 28 June 2021 (UTC) ǁ ǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 (talk) 11:13, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

PS. All edits by BachelorOne at both en/WP and de/WP pont to what I claim. It's an account that their contribution revolves around Yannis Livadas, as did all the abovementioned globaly locked socks. It's the cross-wiki Livadas pushing pattern, well established so far. In the links I gave above you will find what I mean. I have nothing else to add. It' all based on behaviour, since all the other accounts have no recent edits (bc they are blocked/locked). That is the reason I don't ask for a CU. Please note that since the Yannis Livadas article has been deleted several times, as has its talk page, many of the edits of the aforementioned accounts on the subject can be traced only by the sysops, but you may get an idea from Mike Mike's log. ǁ ǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 (talk) 18:35, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

PS2. In the edit history of the Gernam article of Livadas it is clearly shown that this is the product of the 2 globaly locked socks, and know the "new" contributor is BachelorOne. So, if BachelorOne is a sock of Adratiatic20 and Openview30, that means it's a sock of the sockmaster, and that is Mike Mike. ǁ ǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 (talk) 18:40, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

PS3. Beatboy16 seems to be a fun of Livadas, or a close associate (if I recollect well at Commons or el/WP once they claim to be Livadas' publisher, while uploading a photo of him), but they aren't a sock. There was a CU at Meta that didn't show any relation. Plus, their pattern is not exactly the same; Beatboy16's interests and contributions are broader, although they had a special interest on Livadas' poetry. So far, the only account that was apparently conrtibuting as a meatpuppet was "Mario Domínguez Parra" that belonged to Livadas' translator in spanish language, a user active in es/WP (see the log ) who aslo appeared out of the blue at el/WP, while discussing the deletion of the Greek article on Livadas (, cf ). ǁ ǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 (talk) 19:48, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Comments by other users
''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.''
 * In addition to the above, has anyone looked at ? Their first edit was wikilinking Yannis Livadas, then they tried to recreate the article through AfC—pretty persistently, I might add—and uploaded several related images. That first edit was in May 2016, a bit over 2 months after and  were blocked. I'll admit that their writing style isn't an exact match, but perhaps it's a MEAT situation. Woodroar (talk) 19:09, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - I have read this report and the archive and do not have enough to go on. Therefore: In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this. KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 18:19, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Closing with no action taken. Feel free to file a new report, but if you do, you'll need to supply specific diffs on enwiki which clearly demonstrate socking.  Diffs on other wikis are generally not useful to enwiki investigations. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:49, 1 July 2021 (UTC)