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 * Both and  edit Croatia-related articles with a noticeably revisionist slant, including Croatian Orthodox Church, about a WW2-era fascist creation that was explicitly intended to assimilate Croatia's Serb population during a particularly heinous campaign of genocide against Serbs that took place in the country from 1941-1945. Their edits both push the POV that the church had existed for centuries before WW2 and that Orthodox Croats were not merely a WW2-era fascist invention.
 * In addition, both users have an odd obsession with claiming certain decidedly non-Croatian historical figures as being ethnically Croat.
 * Both users also have a habit of calling evidence that conflicts with their worldview "forgeries" or "fabricated"
 * Last year, Ban kavalir was banned for operating sockpuppet accounts on multiple occasions.
 * Over at Shtokavian, on 22 October, an i.p. edited the article to conform to their POV, deleting quite a bit of sourced information. Nine minutes later, the account Mikola22 makes its "first" wiki edit, reverting, who had previously reverted the IP.  Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 18:44, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

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I don't know who he is Ban kavalir and it does not interest me, every piece of information I put on wikipedia is from books by various historians. The proof for that is fact that I have no complaints(talk page) that my information are false or that they are not true. All my quotes in the different articles are proof as well. If someone doesn't like these historical facts written by various historians I have nothing to do with that, it's mine to put it on Wikipedia. The fact is that there are dozens of data that do not have confirmations in the original historical data but they are still in Wikipedia articles and I tried to delete them but it is stated that it was written by some historian. All the information I have provided is proven by historical documents not just in the words of historians, so please let me do my job in peace, thanks.Mikola22 (talk) 19:07, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Apart from the fact that this report should have been been presented under Ban kavalir, I doubt that they are the same. I had a few run-ins with Ban kavalir last year, and I have lately come across Mikola22. Apart from both being hooked up in Croatian issues and both being prone to use edit war rather then discussion, I really see no striking similarities. They differ significantly in style, language skills and preferred scope. The problem with Mikola22 is more their lack of understanding of central guidelines and policies, specifically WP:RS and WP:CONSENSUS springs to mind. --T*U (talk) 15:36, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

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Ban kavalir, who should have been named as the alleged master, is. CU declined.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:34, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Closing this, with no action taken. BK's last edit was back in April, with a multi-year history before that, Mikola showed up in October.  Croat politics/history is a contentious area, so it's not at all surprising that more than one editor would be making revisionist edits.  I'm not seeing anything here that makes me think sock.  -- RoySmith (talk) 18:53, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

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At Talk:Shtokavian, made the following remark. This was followed a few hours later by with the same line of argument. . And the day after that appeared. . A few minutes later made this edit at Talk:Shtokavian, which was followed by this edit at Talk:Serbs of Croatia, proving beyond reasonable doubt that at least two of the three IPs belong to that user. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 19:02, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Not three I have five IP addresses. Every day another IP. I am a world record in different IPs. Mikola22 (talk) 20:24, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

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Just for the record: All the edits by those three IP addresses were made before the first edit by the registered account Mikola22, so this investigation is without any interest. There is nothing wrong in first editing unregistered and then creating an account. --T*U (talk) 21:05, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * That's true, but Ban kavalir predates them all. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:46, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

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 * Closing per my comment in 09 November 2019, above. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:54, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

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Most of the IP activity has taken place on the Smiljan article, where has been involved in an edit war. On 22 January, Mikola was warned about edit-warring at Smiljan by and told that he risked being blocked. The first of the offending IPs appeared the following day, pushing the exact same POV that Mikola22 was pushing the day earlier. One of the IPs edit-warring at Smiljan complaining about "fabrications". Mikola22 has dismissed secondary sources that don't match his POV as "forgeries".

At Smiljan, has accused other users of spreading "propaganda". On the same article, has also accused other users of spreading "propaganda". An IP over at Knin also accused other users of spreading "Serbian propaganda" in their edit summary, reverting, a user who was involved in the edit war at Smiljan. Interestingly, Mikola22 hasn't edited Smiljan at all since the IPs appeared. Mikola22 has admitted to using various IPs in the past, joking that he owned the world record in operating different IPs. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 16:51, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

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, you're really not going to consider that Mikola22 isn't using a proxy to evade detection? What are the odds of IPs from three different continents converging on the same article at the same time and pushing the same POV? Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 17:34, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Do you work with me and others in the interest of the article or you make false accusations? What I have to do with IP addresses, that's what the operator does. I don't know whats the matter with you, we all have to work in the interest of Wikipedia and the accuracy of the articles. You accuse me for something I do not know what, Sadko searches for Nazis and Fascists on Wikipedia. I'm give my time here and you're looking for I don't know who. Let's work in good faith. We need it.Mikola22 (talk) 17:38, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * These IPs are all over the place. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 17:08, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

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Seems a duck to me which just attempted to canvass. Ahmetlii (talk) 20:34, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

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II see you deleted my message and reported me. I will not return the message, because that is what you decided. And let user Mikola come here to prove that it's not me and let the admins compare ip addresses.89.172.89.24 (talk) 20:39, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * Please provide evidence,, or this report will be declined -- In actu (Guerillero) Parlez Moi 21:27, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @In actu, I think the evidence is obvious. The IP is likely meat- or sockpuppet per the WHOIS evidence, as you may be able to see that the IP is located in Croatia. However, to give some context, you may want to see Special:Diff/1012697139, which is apparently for effecting the consensus in the ongoing discussions regarding the user. (also notice that the IP user has only done three edits, which are all related with this.) Ahmetlii (talk) 09:03, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No evidence given Guerillero  Parlez Moi 01:22, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

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The account is topic banned, and per this, its clear he is using his IP to run away from topic-ban. 177.206.36.42 (talk) 07:39, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

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An interesting situation. Most of the logs have already rotten (if I remember correctly, they are stored for three months). In ten days the last logs will burn (for address ). Portion of sarcasm was here.--Nicoljaus (talk) 12:19, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * All the IPs are stale. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  15:35, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

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The user is topic banned, and per this ,, its clear he is using his IP to run away and cross-wiking from topic-ban. Per this, is the same user and WP:DUCK is notable. Makomako1313 (talk) 05:18, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
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 * - CheckUser evidence may not be user to connect IP's to an account. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:07, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I examined the behavior of the IPs, and I'm convinced that they were in fact the sockmaster reported here. However, they are stale at this point, and I see no purpose served by blocking; the most recent activity is a week old. Some of the pages in question have already been protected. I checked the two ranges that could plausibly be blocked, but one is far too wide, and the other also has some danger of collateral damage. I don't believe there is anything else SPI can do here, so I'm marking for closure. Vanamonde (Talk) 00:49, 30 July 2023 (UTC)