Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Miracle dream/Archive

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signed as. I've never seen this happen before. I've seen plenty of users forget to sign their comments but never sign as another user. LelouchEdward with an all-caps edit summary. From what I see LelouchEdward has never blanked a conversation nor used an all-caps summary before this. When confronted about this, they respond that they "Just copy a wrong signature from the talk page of World War II" and fail to sign the comment at all, which is also a little uncharacteristic.The stalker tool shows they've both edited the same four articles the most common of which is the article about World War II where LelouchEdward says they copied Miracle dream's signature. The LelouchEdward account was created just as Miracle dream took a break from their typical World War II topic editing. Neither seems to be a native English speaker and both seem to evince the same Han Chinese outlook. While I don't see active deception I worry this is the development of a sock to be abused later on. I just can't overlook this odd occurrence as mere coincidence. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 02:29, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

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 * The two accounts are ✅. Blocked the master for two weeks and the puppet indefinitely and tagged. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:12, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

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Lijing1989 shares with the blocked sockmaster Miracle dream a particular style of argumentation and views on maps of Chinese dynasties, China's role in World War II and credit for Chinese inventions. Unfortunately the evidence that the same person is behind the two accounts is complicated, due to considerable efforts at concealment, and goes through the IP. [added: direct evidence in the comment below of 12:30, 16 September 2023]

Lijing1989 = IP: On their zhwiki user talk pages, User:Lijing1989 and User:Ooodjr were coordinating their actions on the enwiki page Tang dynasty and its talk page. It's in Chinese, but Google translate is good enough to get the gist. On Ooodjr's zhtalk, Lijing1989 switched to 2A13:DB01:10A1:CF19:1446:800F:66BF:A236. That this IP is the same person as Lijing1989 is demonstrated by:
 * the whole discussion matching what is concurrently occurring at Talk:Tang dynasty,
 * the IP's edits to Lijing1989's comments at the time the IP was posting on Ooodjr's zhtalk.,
 * the IP describing their strategy at Talk:Allies of World War II, where Lijing1989 is engaged in a lengthy argument.

IP = Miracle dream: The person behind the IP has clearly been on enwiki for many years. The IP goes on to illustrate their strategies with detailed descriptions of past battles on Nanjing Massacre and Ming dynasty, starting with. The accounts match lengthy discussions at Talk:Nanjing Massacre/Archive 8 and Talk:Ming dynasty/Archive 3, both of which were driven by User:Miracle dream. Kanguole 20:19, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

The point here is not the coordination with Ooodjr, but that in the process Lijing1989 reveals that he is the banned editor. Kanguole 22:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Lijing1989 reinstating edits made years earlier by Miracle dream: Kanguole 12:30, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Artificial intelligence: vs
 * Toothbrush: vs
 * Optics: vs

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 * I warned . While the zhwiki discussion is problematic, it does not look to me like a deliberate attempt to WP:PROXYING for a banned editor. Closing. MarioGom (talk) 21:59, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Reopening to give another look, just in case I misinterpreted the evidence. MarioGom (talk) 22:51, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged the named account. The IP made only two edits almost two months ago. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 16:41, 30 October 2023 (UTC)