Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/MissSherryBobbins/Archive

08 November 2012

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I am an account that was previously involved in a sockpuppet investigation. I have dislcosed this information to ArbComm and am now editing under a fresh account. For checkusers, please contact them if you need additional information about me or you can simply use the email link on my user page. This investigation has come up as a user by the name of User:DownRightMighty was linked to a sockpuppet investigation that I was involved with as being one of my socks. This user is not associated with me as previously disclosed to ArbComm. During the course of a discussion on that user's talk page, the user pointed out a user using two accounts to edit the article Mercy Ministries. The user DRM was banned as a sock and no one took up the issue of the user who appears to be using two accounts.

Here is the evidence of the sock as presented by DRM on their talk page:

"Thank you. I made the accusation as right after Miss Bobbins reverted the information in the article, the condescending comments "Can you kindly point me to the edits you made? I don't see them, but perhaps I'm mistaken" were left above on my talk page. This was the only comment from that user and it was based on me stating on my user page that I created an account to edit the article. I did create an account as I see multiple edits made to the page from IP addresses so I wanted to make sure that my edits were out in the open and not secret like others tend to be with their edits to the article. From the history of the article, there tends to be plenty of edit warring and you are correct with your comments on the talk page. There is probably too much information that I put in the article but I guess that I can talk it out with Miss Bobbins or request consensus for anything we cannot. My concern is that Wikipedia are using Wikipedia to make a point or to be disruptive. From the history of the edits, people are using the article to make a point and disrupt Wikipedia because of the something they either have against the organization or someone within the organization. Either way, I apologize you had to get involved. I will be happy to discuss the issues with Bobbins and go through the normal consensus channels if needed. The multiple account issues is something you can look at if you want, but I am confident based on my previous statement that these accounts are connected and more than likely the same person. Why else would one reverse all of the content and then the newly created account with only one edit, on my talk page, made to rub in that they reversed the edits. This is truly disrupting Wikipedia. --DownRightMighty (talk) 20:43, 14 October 2012 (UTC)"

and additional

"2 Accounts - Sorry I did not point it out earlier. The comment left at the top of the page started with "Hi" and at the end it was manually signed "OO." There was no Wikipedia signature so I looked at the history of the talk page [1]. You can see from the history that the comment was left by "Ollyoxen" which can also be attributed to the "OO." This was the same time that MSB reverted the content. MSB second comment on my talk page is started and formatted in the same manner as "Ollyoxen." That is why the accusation as if it is a coincident that MSB and OO are NOT the same person, then maybe they can provide me with the lottery numbers for tonight. Consensus - Understanding the consensus policy of Wikipedia, I am pleased that you have allowed us to continue dialogue to address the issue. I am more concerned about the 2nd account now since MSB denies it. However, I will continue the dialogue to see if a consensus can be reached. Thanks. --DownRightMighty (talk) 20:51, 15 October 2012 (UTC)"

From the statements above and from looking at the talk page and article page of Mercy Ministries, I would tend to believe that these are the same person. As for DownRightMighty, this user could be a sock of MissSherryBobbins being used as an account to throw off the interest that MSB has in the article. While not relevant here, but does tend to prove the previous statement, there are numerous articles that were posted right after DRM was banned. These articles appear to be controlled by MSB.,, , ,. UsedEdgesII (talk) 19:43, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' In reply to Elen, DownRightMighty and MissSherryBobbins are definitely not the same person. MSB, in the past, attempted to transform the article Mercy Ministries into a scathing criticism, based primarily on blog posts and other non-RS. DRM, on the other hand, attempted to transform the article into a pile of positive puffery, based primarily on Mercy Ministries' own website and forum claims. Right now, the article has gotten a little bit more in hand--it's closer to neutral, though more work needs to be done (there are, supposedly, RS that make critical claims that aren't currently in the article). However, I really don't believe that this is some sort of complicated double-reverse fakery where DRM and MSB are the same person pushing completely opposing POV. It is certainly possible that both people are directly connected to the subject--that DRM may well being paid by the Ministries (or, perhaps just being a loyal adherent), and it may also be possible that MSB is closely connected to the MM Survivors websites which would like to see MM shut down (at a bare minimum). But I will point out that since the most recent kerfuffle with DRM, MSB has been doing a much better job of sticking only to RS and keeping the language more neutral. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:42, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
UsedEdgesII is also a sock of one of the editors involved in Sockpuppet investigations/Morning277 - which actually features multiple socking editors, not just one sockmaster. I must point out that they have not been given any approval or permission by Arbcom to create what is now their fourth? sock - all the previous ones having been blocked when identified.

However, they do seem determined to wipe out the other socks in the Morning277 sockfarm, go figure. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:42, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

And the answer is...a lemon. Ms Bobbins is in Australia, while Ollyoxen is editing on a RoadRunner account out of the Western United States. Ms Bobbins needs to be careful not to edit while logged out, and give the impression of being more people than she is. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Now appears to be editing from Europe, but in fact is using a webhost, and so could be anywhere, so if anyone thinks their editing is sufficiently similar to either Ms Bobbins or Ollyoxen, now would be a good time to point it out as I am myself very inclined to believe that DRM is the same person as Ollyoxen.

UsedEdgesII I have also blocked, which might seem unkind but then he's already been blocked as User:Morning277, User:PrezMittens and User:Ezzayakoo while editing from the same closed proxy IP belonging to a casino, which I am now going to seriously hardblock. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:33, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Closing as it appears everything opened up and nothing left to do. Dennis Brown - 2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 13:21, 16 November 2012 (UTC)