Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mister Mtzplk/Archive

04 October 2014

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The origin of this suspicion begins with the conversation and timeline, as well as the stealth edits that occurred to reference sources under the control of the topic (BLP) of the page, at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Debito_Arudou#.22getting_fired.22_vs_.22quitting.22

If you look at the human written copyright at the bottom of the page, and it says “1995-2006″. Yet you hit Ctrl-I on Firefox etc and their HTTP server will happy tell you that the page was modified 2014-09-30 11:08:13 (GMT+0900)… happens to be 1 hour, 35 minutes after I pointed out the page on Wikipedia: signed 0:33, 30 September 2014 (UTC) for reference #5 "Background"; Mister_Mtzplk reported this change just 5 minutes after what the what the HTTP Response headers report the page page as:“Last-Modified: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 02:08:13 GMT.

I suspect that the Wikipedia editor Mister Mtzplk is a sockpuppet on the Arudou page. He’s a new Single Purpose Account adding nice things all over the place, is familiar with Wikipedia processes, and claims not to be a fan of Arudou as he is “too opinionated”. That’s not what people who dislike him dislike him for.

The sources/references being disputed in the Talk are being stealth edited directly in response to chats between these two characters. I believe that Sweetandloveable is the BLP's spouse... although the language being used between the two... especially the formatting of the text, the terminology used for a "newbie" to wikipedia, is extremely similar.

If you read through that Wikipedia edit summaries, you can tell right away by the writing style that Sweetandloveable is either Dr. Arudou or his wife. Probably his wife after reading the long emotional reply on the talk page.

I also noticed the occasional spelling of Arudo without the final u, perhaps deliberate to try to throw people off the trail? And despite both being quite active, there are no overlapping edit sessions that I can see. And both do the Arudo thing.

The self-described newbie "Sweetandlovable" has had curiously no problems at all formatting or referring to a range of wikipedia policies.

One of the very first edits done in the first 24 hours of “Mister_Mtzplk”s existence was to add the Ph.D. And add the title “Dr.” to the name. This corresponds to the subject changing his title on all external sources (the debito.org source material referenced all throughout the BLP) throughout the internet-- on pages that Debito Arudou alone controls.

Almost all of the edits by these two edit Debito Arudou information exclusively, and the two accounts were created very close in time together. And despite both being quite active, there are no overlapping edit sessions. And both do the "Arudo" thing.

I believe they may be using the same computer and/or IP, with Debito Arudou "meatpuppeting" responses for his spouse.

Diffs in order of events, with Talk last re another user's rational for suspecting sockpuppets:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Debito_Arudou&diff=625568406&oldid=625480816

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Debito_Arudou&diff=627340339&oldid=627266965

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Debito_Arudou&diff=627616736&oldid=627614245

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Debito_Arudou&diff=627631061&oldid=627626027 Eido INOUE 14:15, 4 October 2014 (UTC)


 * FOLLOWUP:

For some reason, Sweetandlovable and Mister_Mtzlpk have become inactive, and the account Arudoudebito has now become active, and is addressing the edits and talks that Sweetandlovable and Mister_Mtzlpk have been doing, rather than they themselves doing it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Statement_by_Arudoudebito

I also find it curious that Arudoudebito somehow, in his statement above, confidentally knew the gender of Sweetandlovable ("her edits") in his statement above. This further enforces my belief that Sweetandlovable is a meatpuppet/sockpuppet and is possibly Ardoudebito 's spouse. Oddly, Arudoudebito has begun arguing on behalf of the alleged sockpuppets' Talks and Edits (using the same style and arguing about the same points as the alleged sockpuppets), yet he did not invite them to the his self-originated dispute (I added them) despite the fact that they were involved in the Edits and Talks and not the Arudoudebito id. -- I believe he did this for fear that if he did, it would make it too easy to deduce sockpuppetry (a conversation between the sockmaster and the sockpuppets on a page that Wikipedia administrators evaluate, instigated by the sockmaster).


 * NEW FOLLOWUP:

Arudoudebito has just opened up a case here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Debito_Arudou:_Opening_request_for_third-party_mediation_for_many_years_of_violations_of_NPOV_on_a_BLP_on_me

and in this lengthy writing, I think there is also perhaps an unintentional revelation of motivations that further suggest Mister_Mtzplk is a sock-/meat-puppet that is him and/or someone with whom he is definitely cooperating with. To quote (emphasis added):

"Even after I removed the section in question from my website, in order to see how Wikipedia would enforce its own rules, Eido decided to use the Wayback machine as a source, which violates WP:SELFPUB. For if Wayback becomes the template for citing internet-archived self-published sources when current sources exist, issues will arise. This has been raised on the Talk page by Mister Mtzplk" Eido INOUE 16:22, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

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YET ANOTHER FOLLOWUP

Since this request began and people have begun examining this page more carefully, non-logged in users have begun editing this account. I have added two IP based editors to the above list; all three of them appear to share the same M.O. as the other alleged sockpuppets, AND their reverse geo-location happens to be the exact same location that the sockmaster,, voluntarily and publicly self-identified his location to be in the bottom of his recent request (with his real name) on the BLP noticeboard (link three paragraphs above). Eido INOUE 06:18, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

These recent non-registered accounts that made "fly-bys" to remove something that they disagreed with, etc, in the article. Sometimes they claimed that they were disinterested third-parties. Sometimes they didn't. They all started editing Wikipedia around the same time. And sometimes they edited other articles just enough to make it look like they were *not* single purpose accounts. Eido INOUE 06:22, 19 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eido.inoue (talk • contribs)

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I do find it odd that a day after this was posted Arudoudebito came back to wikipedia for the first time since 2008. But then this whole saga is abit odd. This article in question has brought out 4 SPA's. Serialjoepsycho (talk) 06:10, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
 * One IP has only made one edit on wikipedia. The other IP has been editing since 2007. They have only made 4 edits to the article. 2 in 2013 and 2 in 2014. There's nothing to suggest that either are socks for Debito or even SPA's. Sweetandloveable and Mister Mtzplk seem to be SPA's. But then you and Oddexit seem to be SPA's also involved in the same article.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 05:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I think a checkuser is warranted here, although this needs to be handled sensitively given that User:Arudoudebito has identified himself as Debito Arudou. Also, I would recommend that and  be given a checkuser. I'll open a separate SPI case about that. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 07:28, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, after going through Eido.inoue's and Oddexit's edits in more detail, I'm not so sure that they are connected any more. There are some similarities, but the differences are enough that I'm not certain that a checkuser is warranted. My opinion on the accounts listed on this page hasn't changed. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 07:59, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * . all accounts listed. Filer not checked. --  DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  19:21, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I've blocked Mister Mtzplk and Sweetandloveable as probable sockpuppets or meatpuppets. I haven't blocked Arudoudebito, the main account, for reasons that I have outlined on his talk page. Closing. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 06:21, 13 November 2014 (UTC)