Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Motaros/Archive

Evidence submitted by Nymf
I have been following this user for quite some time now. He edits on one account, and when he has edit warred on that and gathered up a number of warnings, he moves on to a new account and keeps doing it. The evidence in the editorial history is quite clear, but I'll map it out quickly: The accounts are all obsessed with abbreviations (such as DB, TCM, etc), and year articles (such as 1973, 1979, etc). They all edit articles related to Opeth, In Flames, Dark Tranquillity, Katatonia, and that whole melodic death metal scene. They all share an interest in UFC. Nymf hideliho! 16:22, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

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 * While I did not know that this person has been accused of sockpuppeting, but it seems to make sense. I did notice some activity that Motaros did (such as the edits performed on the Katatonia page; we reverted each other at times, but not necessarily in a conflicting fashion). I could tell that Nymf has had some trouble with Motaros, as shown by this entry on my talk page. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 19:39, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have tried to reason with the user several times, but gave up when he created "Angxst". And when I now noticed that he had created yet another sock, I figured it was time to make this report. Nymf hideliho! 20:43, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Interesting. are all ✅ as the same. We also have ✅ as being the same. I'll leave the exercise in syllogism to the clerks/processing admins. No comments on the listed IPs. TN X Man 20:48, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Watching IPs, although I think the IP has changed again. NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 01:34, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

22 May 2011

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I believe that Mtlv0 is a new sock of M4pnt (formerly Motaros). You can view the old SPI on Motaros here. User Mtlv0 began editing 2 days after M4pnt's last edit. They both edit the same kind of pages (UFC fighters, and Swedish/European Death Metal articles). They both have edited some exact same pages (eg Deliver Us (In Flames song), Dan Swanö), or related pages (eg M4pnt edited Opeth, Mtlv0 edited My Arms, Your Hearse and other Opeth albums). The edits are generally the same kinds, including removing pertinent information from pages (such as removing info from the infobox as "redundant"), collapsing tracklists that have no business being collapsed, and other identical violations of Template:Track listing, Template:Infobox album/Template:Infobox musical artist, WP:ALBUM, WP:MOS (music), and probably more. While all this could be considered coincidence, this diff says (in part) "I typed on the Resurrection Through Carnage page...but someone said no" (regarding some edit). Mtlv0 never posted on Resurrection Through Carnage, but M4pnt did (and I was one of two users to dispute their edit to that page). Between the similar edits, and the indirect admission to being the same person (the diff on my talk page), I'd say this is the same user. This also follows the user's previous pattern of editing under an account for a while, then abandoning it when they've accumulated some warnings or talk page messages suggesting they edit according to Wikipedia policy. M4pnt/Motaros was warned not to create any new accounts, and they claimed on M4pnt's talk that they would only edit using this account, but now it seems they have abandoned that account to return to their old disruptive edits. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 03:07, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

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 * Blocked both accounts. M4pnt was unblocked with the promise that he'd only use one account, yet he seems to have jumped again. Not anymore. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 22:32, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

14 June 2011

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Another (and hopefully final) DUCK. Motaros has moved on yet again, despite promising not to. This time while the old account, User:Mtlv0, was still blocked (note the time it was created, and when the block was lifted). I propose a ban. For reference, I also made ANI case here. Nymf hideliho! 06:28, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

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Also based on the ANI, can the following also be checked for the sake of completeness:



Thanks,

- J Greb (talk) 14:07, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * There was a request on the ANI thread to run a CU here, so I'm adding it. I'm pretty sure they're the same, though.. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 06:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅, . TN X Man  13:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, = .  TN X Man  17:55, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Wonderful. Both accounts are blocked and tagged. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 18:37, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

23 July 2011

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Previously blocked once. Needs to be reblocked. Quack! Nymf hideliho! 16:37, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

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 * 'kay, done. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 17:13, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

02 December 2011

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Previously blocked IP that needs to be reblocked. Editing the same articles, so quack! Nymf hideliho! 18:53, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked 6 months. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 01:10, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

02 April 2012

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 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

It's a duck if you are aware of this user's history. What gives it away is these kind of edits, the obsession with things being the first, last, etc, the focus on "XXX in music" articles (while not adding the complete date, e.g. only "2" rather than "march 2"), as well as the focus on Swedish death metal. Quack, Quack!

If possible, an underlying IP-range softblock would help immensely, since we are obviously missing the IPs that have been running at large for months now. Nymf hideliho! 20:02, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

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October 010 has been indefinitely blocked and tagged. I cannot do much with the IPs, as that range is very busy, and rangeblocking would cause some collateral damage. --MuZemike 21:33, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

15 April 2012

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 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

Another duck. Editing the same Swedish death metal related articles, with the same kind of editing patterns (e.g. no spaces before the signature when leaving messages - compare this and this; obessed with things being the first and last; editing year articles; etc). Quack! Nymf hideliho! 20:40, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

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 * Highly . Blocked and tagged. Tiptoety  talk 03:15, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

03 September 2012

 * Suspected sockpuppets




 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

Edits the same sorts of articles as before (Swedish death metal bands/albums/members, , , MMA fighters , acronyms/initialisms , , years , ). Most of the articles this user edits were created or edited by past socks, including User:M4pnt, User:1onei65 and User:October 010. Edits are consistent with this user's past editing styles. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 19:51, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

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 * As someone who has had to deal with the socks of Motaros for several years, this just screams WP:DUCK to me. I think Mr Moustache covered the evidence very well, so I have nothing to add there except for my endorsement. Nymf hideliho! 17:38, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Obvious duck based on a number of intersecting articles and unlikely coincidences. IP is stale, but editor is indef blocked.  Closing. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 15:09, 7 September 2012 (UTC)