Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Movaigonel/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
Movaigonel was indeff blocked recently. Fr4you is a new account created just a week ago, yet it demonstrates similar behavior to Movaigonel in similar articles. First edit is reverting an IP in a niche newly created article that only a few editors edited, including Movaigonel,. Fr4you edited in a new article Movaigonel created, and himself created a similar article , both about French/Algerian battles – which is something Fr4you and Movaigonel show interest in and created several articles on this topic. - Kevo3 2 7 (talk) 11:40, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

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I predict that checkuser would find that they are in different parts of the world (see their times of edits). They might be the same; there are some similarities between them, but also behavioural differences. Part of the reason for suspecting they are the same person is that Fr4you was created on 23 August, after Movaigonel got an indefinite block on 2 August. I can see some similarities in the wording between the version of Battle of Timimoun created by Movaigonel and the version of Battle of Fedj Zezoua created by Fr4you. Both use U.S.-style dates and spelling, and both use the phrase "is a military confrontation between the". But I can also see differences - Movaigonel gave the French designations "(3e R.P.C)" and "(1er R.E.P)"; Fr4you did not. The evidence that they both edited the same two articles is thin, the edits they made to those articles are not similar. Fr4you makes 84% of their edits to articles (Main + Draft), whereas Movaigonel made 54% (Main + Draft); that is a big difference. Conclusion a checkuser comparing these users would be a good thing. If it does not show they are the same, behavioural evidence alone would not support a block. -- Toddy1 (talk) 11:09, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * ✅, . Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:14, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Pro-forma, checked and blocked at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nugo20299. Spicy (talk) 23:32, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 23:33, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

 * ( original case name)

Recreated Draft:Battle of Mastara, previously G5 deleted by. S0091 (talk) 22:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * - Please move to Sockpuppet investigations/Movaigonel. Bbb23 (talk) 14:27, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks. Spicy (talk) 14:47, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Blocked IP for one week, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 15:01, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

 * ( original case name)

With under 30 edits, Friedrch2 has recreated two pages that were G5'ed by @Yamla on 9 November 2023 at 7:26: Battle of Nakhchivan (1919) and Aras War. The deletion log doesn't have the name of the blocked or banned user, nor can I access the deleted page, so I cannot provide further evidence, sorry. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * While you can't see it in the deletion log, there is some information available at Special:Log by entering the page title as the target. See here and here. The user is, the SPI case is at Sockpuppet investigations/Movaigonel. I'm sure a clerk will merge these in due course. Local Variable (talk) 16:56, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Local Variable! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 16:59, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * I've blocked as well as, who also recreated a previously G5'd draft verbatim.  please send this over to Sockpuppet investigations/Movaigonel, tag both as suspected, and set the status to CU requested for a sleeper check (given the tendency to use multiple accounts simultaneously). Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:27, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I've merged the case per your request. However, Friedrch2 looks technically ❌ to the master (different continent) and Tufffffff is unrelated to both, but ✅ to:


 * Historical and behavioural data suggests that the master of the Tufffffff group is.
 * cc. Spicy (talk) 11:45, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I've re-blocked Tufffffff to list Samuel Khuspov as the master and tagged as suspected. For Friedrich2: both Draft:Battle of Nakhchivan (1919) and Draft:Aras War are word-for-word identical to deleted versions by blocked users (including typos), so at a minimum there's some sort of illegitimate coördination going on (not for the first time in this topic area), and that's reason enough for a block under the circumstances. I've changed the block summary to reflect that. Not entirely sure whether this SPI needs to be moved somewhere else (and, if so, where). Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:59, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Does Aras War need to be WP:G5'd? – Novem Linguae (talk) 14:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Actually there's a bunch of other edits to it by new users, so probably no longer qualifies for G5. But may be worth SPI-ing those other users. This article is on my watchlist because it is such a honeypot for this sockfarm. – Novem Linguae (talk) 14:47, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I filed a new case for the Samuel Khuspov group at Sockpuppet_investigations/Samuel_Khuspov. Leaving the rest here for now. Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 17:47, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Thanked me for deleting a page created by a previous sock when there's no clear reason for them to even be aware of this, focused on the same (admittedly broad) subject area. Yamla (talk) 13:29, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * . Without sufficient behavioural evidence, I'm closing this with no action. --Yamla (talk) 13:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Peachy1621 is recreating War over Mountainous Armenia word for word identically to the previous (now deleted) version from sock, AmanAmanAmaTurq. Yamla (talk) 18:56, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * , unfortunately. Closing with no action. --Yamla (talk) 18:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)