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25 April 2015

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There is an ongoing dispute at Talk:AC/DC (with some discussion having occurred at Talk:List of AC/DC band members) concerning the band lineup. Since Phil Rudd had been ordered by a judge to remain in New Zealand, he was unable to accompany the band on their current tour. Now, although the announcement that Chris Slade would be the drummer while touring occurred last Autumn (Oct/Nov), for some reason the edit-warring heat went up in February with the sudden arrival of multiple SPA/sock accounts to push a POV that isn't held in sources. This doesn't seem to follow any particular press release which may have brought random new editors from the public but rather looks like deceptive concerted efforts. Socking or meatpuppetry? Maybe a mixture of both. Regular editors have been fending off the socks but with an increased frequency in disruption, it is time to address this.

Common interests held by MrBark and the IP 67.224.16.233

AC/DC

They are supporting each other in the Rudd/Slade discussions at Talk:AC/DC which is where it is my contention that illegitimate socking is going on. Many diffs could be pulled to make the point but I'll just use this one where the IP is pressing for Bark's specific POV.

67.xxx has other commonalities with MrBark like an interest in the Space Shuttle. MrBark is very interested in this topic (just a few examples from a good many):
 * diff 1, diff 2, diff 3, diff 4, diff 5, diff 6, diff 7, diff 8

...and so does 67.xxx
 * diff 1, diff 2

This is easiest to see looking at his editing history for most of October 2008. Bark is moving back and forth between AC/DC and Space Shuttle topics consistently. Here are some select diffs: diff 1, diff 2, diff 3, diff 4, diff 5, diff 6

Similar edits outside of AC/DC and Space Shuttle topics

MrBark
 * diff 1, diff 2

67.xxx
 * diff
 * (signed as "Jack Sprat" instead of the normal nom de plume "Jack B. Nimble")

and the American Civil War

MrBark
 * diff

67.xxx
 * diff

Other socks:

The timing in the appearance of these socks ties most of them together.

Wasp-1992 is a SPA particular to the dispute that appeared on Feb. 4. Sock or meat using their smartphone.
 * diff

Acdcguy1991 is a SPA particular to the dispute that appeared Feb. 8
 * diff

Frozenmax17 is a SPA particular to the dispute that appeared April 17
 * diff

203.208.66.58
 * Special:Contributions/203.208.66.58

It is my contention that pushing this POV is primarily one editor's fixation. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  14:29, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * I am not Mr. Bark. I'm not a very knowledgeable user as I only edit occasionally. This is why I haven't taken out an account. I have used the moniker Jack Sprat as that is my normal moniker, but on an AC/DC fan site, I use the moniker Jack B. Nimble, and have chosen to use that moniker as well. Nothing nefarious about that. Sometimes I even forget to sign my things on here. If you want further proof of my identity, let me know. You can find me on the AC/DC fansite acdcfans.com under the same username - Jack B. Nimble. I cannot speak for Mr. Bark. I do not know him. 67.224.16.233 (talk) 22:27, 25 April 2015 (UTC)Jack B. Nimble


 * I am Mr. Bark. I am not a sock puppet. Also I think it's important to note that although I am expressing my opinion on the AC/DC talk page, I have not edited the AC/DC article itself since the edit war started. I've been a member for about a decade and find the lack of good faith disturbing. --Bark (talk) 12:21, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * The following accounts are :
 * and
 * The following accounts are ❌ to each other and to the above two accounts:
 * and
 * is ✅ from Frozenmax17. However, Frozenmax was created one minute before Frozenmax17 and has made no edits.
 * No comments about the IPs.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:01, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing without action as there is insufficient evidence of sockpuppetry. Frozenmax and 203 are almost certainly someone's sock/meat puppets, but they each only used once, so I'm not inclined to block anyone based on that. Each of those accounts was also last used over a month ago, so hopefully that style of disruption is over in this dispute. Someguy1221 (talk) 03:52, 25 May 2015 (UTC)