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05 January 2014

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Mr Hall gets blocked following an ANI thread, and their last edits are on List of heads of state of Germany; after their block, the same type of edits are made by a brand-spanking new editor, the Major. Blocked already since it is so obvious, but I'd like CU to conform. Drmies (talk) 04:37, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * Also editing as . DrKiernan (talk) 22:57, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * ✅ Courcelles 07:23, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sock blocked indef, master's block extended one week. Closing now. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:02, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

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Mr Hall of England is blocked from article space for repeated violations of WP:NOTBROKEN, including most recently links to United Kingdom Postmaster General. The IP is doing exactly the same edits, often to the same articles. DuncanHill (talk) 22:19, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , There's a lot of history to dig through here. Could you point out some specific diffs for both the IP and Mr. Hall which are the same?  I noticed 213.122.104.162 is also editing Postmaster General of the United Kingdom, so I'm guessing they're a suspect too? -- RoySmith (talk) 19:17, 29 March 2021 (UTC)


 * ,, and , at Henry John Temple, 3rd Viscount Palmerston for example. DuncanHill (talk) 20:05, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * As for it's the edits like this, the bypassing redirects which raise supicion. DuncanHill (talk) 20:05, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * . Checkuser cannot confirm accounts to IP addresses, only accounts to accounts.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   02:37, 29 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Blocked both IPs for a week. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

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Re-adding information on Doctors (2000 TV series); initially added here, removed by myself and recently re-added here. – DarkGlow • 14:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * I am reasonably convinced that the IP is Mr Hall logging out based on DarkGlow's diffs as well as the overlap, including both making the exact same edit in a couple places. Upgraded Mr Hall to a full block, blocked the IP. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:43, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

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Unblock request here. Yamla (talk) 23:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

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✅ to. Tagged and blocked, recording for posterity. --Yamla (talk) 23:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

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Request to merge cases. These seem to be the same editor, so it would make sense to merge this. This is basically just clerking, since both are blocked.

(Background to this report can be found here)

I saw an IP editor doing some edits which I recalled as being very similar to those of a particular block evading editor, but couldn't recall who it was. One thing led to another, and I ended up asking who it was. DuncanHill said it was Harry the house, which confused me a little since I thought it was someone else. I ended up scouring a bit deeper, and found Mr Hall again, who was who I was thinking of. After some discussion, DuncanHill suggested I request a merge, since there are some very compelling bits of evidence here:
 * Harry the house was created in August 2014, Mr Hall got their first block in January that year.
 * After November 2014, Harry didn't edit until again around the time when Mr Hall got into deep trouble (and an indefinite block) for their socking.
 * Both have no consideration whatsoever for WP:NOTBROKEN (See the archive for this case and Harry's archive)
 * Both edit in UK politics
 * Both seem to have competence issues (See Mr Hall's talkpage and HTH's unblock requests)
 * Mr Hall's latest confirmed sock is "House of Nobles"(see /Archive)

I have a theory that Harry was reactivated as an account to use on a mobile device, and so probably won't show a CU link to Hall (and I don't think you can look all the way back to 2014).

There was a user discussed on DuncanHill's talkpage, who seems likely related, but I haven't included them here, as I haven't finished looking into that one, though I won't object to anyone pre-empting it by CU'ing if they think it worthwhile. Mako001 (C) (T)  🇺🇦 12:57, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

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 * Not really seeing it to be honest. Harry the house was into children's cartoons. Mr Hall of England was into nobility and sports. These interests don't seem to be shared among the two cases. In any case, everyone is blocked, so I'm not inclined to spend too much time on what the filer admits is a clerical matter. Spicy (talk) 20:35, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

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The first edits for Earl of Sutton Coldfield were awhile after Mr. Hall of England was blocked, and the edit histories cover similar topics of British peers. Similar editing patterns include adding flagicons where they're not appropriate and adding excessive detail to articles lists where they're outside the scope of the page. I also found that several of the IP addresses listed in the page history of articles like List of life peerages (1958–1979), after Mr. Hall of England had been blocked implemented many of the edits Mr. Hall of England and their sock User:House of Nobles made on their sandboxes around that time, such as 109.152.27.75, 86.191.232.221, and 86.191.232.137. 98.228.137.44 (talk) 19:00, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * as suspected. See Special:Undelete/List of peers retired and removed under the House of Lords Reform Act 2014 and Special:PageHistory/User talk:House of Nobles, which I could not find another logical explanation for. DatGuyTalkContribs 11:23, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

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These IPs show similar editing patterns to User:Mr Hall of England and their former/suspected socks such as User:Earl of Sutton Coldfield (suspected but not confirmed to be a sock) and User:House of Nobles, including using talk pages as drafts and reverting |adding back edits that refer to titles in the Peerage of England, Peerage of Great Britain, and Peerage of the United Kingdom as "imperial titles", a term that does not to appear to be used in reference to those titles anywhere else except in these accounts' edits. 98.228.137.44 (talk) 20:12, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * - Checkusers will not link accounts to IPs, per the privacy policy. . Spicy (talk) 00:29, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I missed the notice of that policy. 98.228.137.44 (talk) 02:06, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * One IP is block, the other one is . Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  11:14, 21 January 2024 (UTC)