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05 January 2015

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Concerted effort consisting of POV pushing in: Sultan-ul-Arifeen, Makhdoom, Hari Parbat and (deleted and recreated, so full history available only to admins) Hamza Makhdoom. The three: Ayesha_Nb, Nainntara and Punjabsind82 have been created to "defend" WP:Articles for deletion/Mujtaba Akhir Zamani, WP:Articles for deletion/Sultan Bahoo: The Life and Teachings, WP:Articles for deletion/Shams-ul-Fuqara and WP:Articles for deletion/Risala Roohi Shareef, their distinct style (capitalisation, headings, and personal attacks  and so on) suggest indeffing per duck. The newest Dannywiki1 is near certain sock of Neyn and "defends" Sultan-ul-Arifeen, Neyn's "baby", by speedy tagging all articles with undesired information - for explanation, see here:. I apologise that I have no time or energy to sift through all their edits and offer diffs - however, edit history of all the suspected socks except Neyn would be the best lecture. BTW, personally I sense two (or three?) distinct editors behind this sock farm, but that's only a gut feeling and I am not in a position to precisely ascribe individual socks to real-life editors. I understand that IP addresses won't be commented upon but their activity consisted primarily of working jointly with the socks, so might be interesting to check. Also, see a discussion on the matter on my Talk page:. Regards,  kashmiri TALK  21:41, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' I was not originally involved, but I noticed what seems to be clear-as-day sockpuppeting behavior during my normal AfD rounds and felt the need to assist. I will try to keep it brief.
 * The Ayesha Nb and Nainntara accounts were created within two days of each other; Punjabsind82 came less than two weeks later. All three accounts focus solely on the articles created by the group (Risala Roohi Shareef, Mujtaba Akhir Zamani and Shams-ul-Fuqara) as well as attacking anyone who questions the notability of those articles.
 * Personal attack by Nainntara at 12:58, 1 January 2015
 * Punjabsind82 has launched almost nothing but personal attacks as can be seen on his/her contribs, though the choiciest is the accusation that Kashmiri has: "entered a war against the holy saint sultan bahoo, the readers of sultan bahoo, teachings of sultan bahoo, sultan bahoo school of thought, followers and lovers of sultan bahoo and sarwar qadri order due to his personal issues with this school of thought and personality of sultan bahoo"
 * Personal attack by Ayesha Nb at 12:22, 1 January 2015
 * There are personal attacks by some of the other accounts as well, virtually all directed at Kashmiri and his (falsely) perceived personal bias:
 * Personal attack by Dannywiki1 at 17:24, 5 January 2015
 * Personal attack by JugniSQ at 04:08, 2 January 2015
 * The various IP addresses display the same pattern of attack as well:
 * IP 202.166.163.146 suggesting Kashmiri and I are the same person at 04:46, 5 January 2015
 * Personal attack by 182.178.180.31 at 10:50, 2 January 2015
 * Personal attack by 182.178.143.229 at 20:43, 3 January 2015
 * Neyn, who appears to be either the puppetmaster or some other kind of ringleader, launched a longer attack repeating much of the same as above here.

So, what am I trying to say? Because these accounts all attack the same guy, they must be socks? No, it is theoretically possible that they all are different people who really dislike Kashmiri. That isn't my argument. Rather, my argument is that: There is more evidence based on the habits of writing and the wording used, but this comment is long enough. I'll leave this one specifically for the similarities in personal attacks and will address the other similarities at a later time. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:56, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * They all attack the same guy, Kashmiri, and anyone else who questions the notability of their articles like myself and User:Shii.
 * They all make these attacks on the same group of articles on related topics, especially relating to anything published by Sultan-ul-Faqr Publications Regd. and any historical figures who were topics of books published by that non-notable printing house (watch out for an AfD coming soon).
 * They all seem to have the same level of English as a second language.
 * They all tend to repeat the same attacks: Kashmiri has a personal problem with the subjects, he is spiritually and mystically uninformed and he has a problem with the movement based on these subjects.
 * Several of the accounts were all created within days or weeks of each other and are single purpose accounts.
 * The IP addresses entered the fray solely to support the efforts of these accounts.

We've got another sockpuppet:. He has filed a bogus report on ANI and AN. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:12, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

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JugniSQ is, the rest are all ✅, and for the IP addresses. Courcelles 19:47, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

08 January 2015

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Obvious sock is obvious. This was their first edit. CU request for sleepers. Luke no 94 (tell Luke off here) 14:08, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Adding Waqas882, whom popped up half an hour after Lockmaster was blocked with a blatantly misrepresentative claim on one of the articles this sockmaster has targetted. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 15:10, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

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 * I placed an indef block on him. He posted more or less word for word the same as the other socks, same arguments etc. Bjelleklang -  talk 14:38, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeffed User:Waqas882 as well. Bjelleklang -  talk 16:22, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm now keeping a fairly sharp eye out for the next sock (as I presume you are as well). Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 16:26, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

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 * Given the obvious behavior, I don't think a check is needed to confirm. Mike V • Talk 16:29, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

09 January 2015

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Another suspected sock created yesterday to contest of two AfD:,. Writing style similar to others, but username reminds of User:JugniSQ above which both comment on the same AfD.  kashmiri TALK  09:47, 9 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Adding User:Roship to the farm - today's WP:SPA with the same editing pattern as above.  kashmiri TALK  14:50, 9 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Adding User:Iilluminate to the farm, per duck.  kashmiri TALK  20:24, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Only contributed on Sultan Bahu and the AFD. Same writing pattern-, throwing website links. He wrote User:kashmiri,(k should be capitalized) also did when he had made an unblock request on Neyn. Bladesmulti (talk) 16:47, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * W.white273

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 * They are probably more socks of Mrashid364, but I'll wait a little more before blocking. So far they've just tried to argue against deletion, but we'll see what happens. Bjelleklang -  talk 21:39, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you were right... here it goes User:DAVIDmosla.  kashmiri TALK  14:00, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't they be disallowed from arguing for or against anything if they truly are sockpuppets? MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:49, 13 January 2015 (UTC)


 * W.white273
 * Attacked me on my Talk page today, apparently continuing previous discussion that he even copied to his own Talk page. Writing style same as User:Neyn.  kashmiri TALK  12:29, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

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 * is part of the previous confirmed group
 * It's hard to tell the difference between sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry in regards to this specific case, so the following are all at least to each other:
 * -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  18:41, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * All except Arwand.uk have been indeffed and marked as suspected sockpuppets. Bjelleklang -  talk 20:09, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * To clear it up, Arwand.uk is part of the Lockmaster1 group Courcelles confirmed above. -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  22:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  18:41, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * All except Arwand.uk have been indeffed and marked as suspected sockpuppets. Bjelleklang -  talk 20:09, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * To clear it up, Arwand.uk is part of the Lockmaster1 group Courcelles confirmed above. -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  22:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * All except Arwand.uk have been indeffed and marked as suspected sockpuppets. Bjelleklang -  talk 20:09, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * To clear it up, Arwand.uk is part of the Lockmaster1 group Courcelles confirmed above. -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  22:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Closing. <b style="color:#151B54">Mike V</b> • <b style="color:#C16C16">Talk</b> 20:21, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

14 January 2015

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Adding User:Keith Cawdry - quack quack! Created only today, only contributions are attempts to block deletion of the same articles as above  <span style="font-family:'Candara',sans-serif;"> kashmiri  <sup style="color:#80F;">TALK  21:01, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

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 * Another to the group listed in the last investigation. --  DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  22:45, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Given the behavioral evidence, I've blocked this account as well. <b style="color:#151B54">Mike V</b> • <b style="color:#C16C16">Talk</b> 06:13, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

28 October 2015

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Badly fails duck test. Markangle11 resumed efforts of the former Mrashid346 stable (which was huge indeed) on Sultan Bahoo, inserting links to own websites (www.sultan-ul-faqr.com and www.sultan-bahoo.com) and references to non-RS publications by some Sultan ul Faqr Publishing House of Lahore; also, and similarly prominently describing one of the nickames supposedly held by the article subject ("Sultan-ul-Arifeen) which is claimed by the Lahore sect as own. <span style="font-family:'Candara',sans-serif;"> kashmiri <sup style="color:#80F;">TALK  11:06, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Adding Remi143 - another recently registered sock, editing the same articles and inserting the same promotional references to publications by Sultan ul Faqr.

Adding samm.jutt - less certain, but also very recently registered and editing much of the same articles.

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 * - In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  19:58, 28 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Will do this shortly, would you keep on hold till then please? I see this will require going through contributions of the confirmed socks as well. Regards, <span style="font-family:'Candara',sans-serif;"> kashmiri <sup style="color:#80F;">TALK  21:20, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  17:15, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing. There has been ample time to supply the evidence here.

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Another attempt at adding promotional content from sultan-bahoo.net, a website managed by a Muslim sect based in Lahore. Just as it was the case with the sockmaster and its many socks, the IP resolves to Lahore. Its editing history gives little doubt that it is the same as Abu Murtaza. — kashmīrī  <sup style="font-family:Candara; color:#80F;">TALK  22:30, 27 September 2018 (UTC) —  kashmīrī  <sup style="font-family:Candara; color:#80F;">TALK  22:30, 27 September 2018 (UTC)


 * I can't instantly – it has been over 3 years since the Lahore sock farm attacked Sultan Bahu and related articles - if I remember correctly, most links were added to now-deleted articles created by the same sock farm (Faqr-e-Iqbal, Sultan Mohammad Najib Ur Rehman, Sultan-ul-Faqr Monthly Magazine, Mujtaba Akhir Zamani, Risala Roohi Shareef, Shams-ul-Fuqara, Sultan-ul-Faqr Publications Regd., Tehreek Dawat-e-Faqr, Sultan Bahoo: The Life and Teachings, Sultan ul arifeen, and many others). See my comment on the editing pattern of other socks at Sockpuppet_investigations/Mrashid364/Archive (here, I had no time to respond to the case then and the socks are now stale). — kashmīrī  <sup style="font-family:Candara; color:#80F;">TALK  09:42, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Here are a few diffs:, ,.


 * Note that the recently regstered www.sultan-bahoo.net is a newer copy of the older www.sultan-bahoo.com – both websites contain almost the same content and both are run by the same organisation Tehreek-Dawat-e-Faqr from Lahore . —  kashmīrī  <sup style="font-family:Candara; color:#80F;">TALK  09:42, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * - Can you show some examples of master (or previous socks) adding links to sultan-bahoo.net?  Vanjagenije   (talk)  08:37, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * This has been awaiting additional evidence for nearly a month now, so I'm closing without prejudice as stale. If anyone wants to provide additional evidence, feel free to reopen and do so. --Deskana (talk) 20:01, 28 November 2018 (UTC)