Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mukkhuu/Archive

20 September 2011

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Editbot3 was more-or-less an SPA working on the Odissi article. Editbot3 last edited on July 19 of this year, and was then soft-blocked for username violations (the username looks like a bot impersonation).

Mukkhuu was created on July 24, after Editbot3's last edit but before the block. I realize that with username softblocks we allow, even encourage editors to create new accounts. So if these are the same editor, that isn't a problem. For all intents and purposes, Mukkhuu could probably be considered the new "master" account but since there is suspicion that Mukkhuu and Editbot3 are the same editor, and Editbot3 is a much older account, I named Editbot3 as the master.

Mukkhuu edited in much the same way as Editbot3, with the vast majority of edits being made to the Odissi article and a handful of related articles.

Just today, Karan1974 made a to ANI complaining about multiple accounts that they suspect to be the same person, which has led to slow-motion edit wars at the before-mentioned Odissi article. The 3 newer accounts have only edited that article (except for a single edit to Sonal Mansingh by IndianDanceCritic) and they seem to support Mukkhuu's intention to remove or otherwise obfuscate mention of "Dr. Bidisha Mohanty" from the article, and especially to remove a particular external link, an example in. The report at ANI linked above has diffs showing efforts from DanceCritic1971 to remove that information from the article. You will see a huge similarity in username and interest between the other 2 newer accounts as well.

The behavioral evidence isn't enough for me to take any action per WP:DUCK, but it's enough to suspect that there may be validity to the claims of sockpuppetry. So I'm requesting checkuser for these accounts, they have all edited within the past few months so there should be data available. --  At am a  頭 21:29, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Gah I need to pay better attention, Mukkhuu started in 2010. Sheesh. That makes this worse, then, that would mean that Editbot3 was editing concurrently with Mukkhuu on the same pages. Good catch Steven, if I'd gotten more sleep last night I probably wouldn't have slipped up like that. Thank you. --  At am a  頭 04:16, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

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. There's enough overlap between the two in terms of editing style, content and behavior here to warrant a check. I've updated the case to reflect the master account, as Mukkhuu was the first account created. Steven Zhang The clock is ticking....  01:52, 21 September 2011 (UTC) DeltaQuad blocked the 4 matching socks above (that's two pair of socks!). Editbot3 was blocked over a month ago already due to username problems and it looks like Mukkhuu hasn't used sockpuppets since, so any further sanctions would seem punitive at this time. I've left a warning and I think that would be sufficient. --  At am a  頭 17:19, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ =  =  =  straight matches, but they  belong to.
 * seems to be Mukkhuu's, though. - Mailer Diablo 04:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much admins for this detailed investigation. My bad, that I forgot to mention "Rani2010" who had done some edits to remove Dr. Bidisha Mohanty, and had also not responded to my request for a discussion. I believe the above mentioned ids would be blocked to keep the page pristine and an authentic source of information. Thank you. --Karan1974 (talk) 05:41, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much DeltaQuad and Atama for this prompt action. I sincerely appreciate your help and the effort you are expending with thorough investigations to keep Wiki authentic. I went through the sock puppet profiles of "Rani2010" and I could see that they are indefinitely blocked however for "Rani2010" user it shows the message "This user is currently blocked. The latest block log entry is provided below for reference: 12:41, 21 September 2011 DeltaQuad (talk | contribs) blocked Rani2010 (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 2 weeks ‎ (Abusing multiple accounts: Please see: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mukkhuu)". Is this account blocked only for 2 weeks ? And if it is indeed so, could we block it indefinitely like the other profiles to pass on a stronger message. Thanks again. --Karan1974 (talk) 17:37, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * When it is shown that an editor is actively engaged in sockpuppetry, we block the alternate accounts indefinitely if there is no legitimate need for the accounts. The actions taken against the "main" account (which is usually identified as the oldest account, but in some cases is the most active or self-declared main account) will vary by circumstance. If the editor has never been sanctioned (or even warned) about sockpuppetry in the past, often times a shorter block is given. That is what DeltaQuad decided to do in this case and I think it was good judgement. If either editor (Rani2010 or Mukkhuu) repeats this behavior, they will be blocked again for a longer period, perhaps indefinitely (again depending on circumstances). --  At am a  頭 21:33, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Atama. This information certainly helps. Thanks. --Karan1974 (talk) 22:28, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I do not engage in any sockpuppetry at all. I had an account under Editbot3 a long time ago. If you look you see that I never logged in as Editbot3 the day Mukkhuu was created. That is because at that time I was unaware that I could not use "bot" in a username and was warned for it. I immediately created Mukkhuu and do not use any other username, like your investigation shows. Karan1974 is falsely accusing me. The case is about something else actually. Karan1974 has been quarreling with me and several others for a very long time over getting some unknown dancer's name in the Odissi list of performers, someone known to him and like he mentions in one of his long rambling rants to me, his daughtes's dance teacher. Karan1974 has been reverting back to any changes being made regarding the removal of this particular dancer, Bidisha Mohanty's name and does not respect the opinion of other editors of the wiki page. Turns out few of these people were resorting to sockpuppetry, which is unfortunate. But it does reflect the opinion that only Karan1974 would like this name included, while if you research further, you will see that the person whose name Karan1974 is attempting to include "Bidisha Mohanty" is not a prominent Odissi dancer with track record like the others in the same list. I and several others believe that wiki was meant to give accurate information and not made a portal to promote otherwise obscure characters. This is turning out to be a funny high school power play and so Karan1974 is having his/her way. Reflects badly on what wiki stands for, but right now, I do not have any interest in trying to do the "right" thing anymore. Mukkhuu (talk) 06:45, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

User "Mukkhuu" got created on July 24, 2010 and user "Editbot3" got created on Dec 5, 2010. There has been overlap of edits (verifiable by looking at the revision history) which suffices to say that they were used in parallel. The admins have already found this out and have determined that user "Mukkhuu" is the master account as that was the account that got created first and not the other way round. By indulging in this action, unfortunately you socked.

I started with a guru of repute (Dr. Bidisha Mohanty) whom I know and I could comprehend the amount of biased actions against a guru of repute which surprised me. I have provided apt justifications and facts and references but somehow these are just dismissed or grudgingly accepted, but then we have a new user creep up and just delete it. Request for justifications are not provided at all. With due investigation by the admins we have determined that they are sock puppets with a vested interest to remove this particular persons name. If you get a chance to look at the revision history, there are a lot of edits and new persons who have also got added during this period and it is not that I am just barring anybody. I has been portrayed as rambling, quarreling, name calling and what not by user "Mukkhuu" when I have attempted to respond to queries. I have asked for justifications from editors like "Rani2010" or "OdissiDanceCritic" who at that point of time I never realized they were sock puppets, but user "Mukkhuu" goes into their talk pages and voices his/her opinion and puts the person in negatively light. Also instances flaming has been observed by user "Mukkhuu".

I have also added a host of Gurus and have citied sources from where I got the info.

I removed the name of the image as "Sujata Mohapatra" who is one dancer (but kept the image as it shows the grace and beauty of the dancer and furthers the cause of the article) and user "Mukkhuu" has also created a special page dedicated to this dancer as this is "promotional" aspect to promote the dancer. I don't resort to unmentionable adjectives to describe the gurus who are in the list or Sujata Mohapatra in this case. I appreciate facts and promote actual facts so that this page is an accurate representation and that is what wiki stands for.

I don't just impose my beliefs and perception and assume that everybody should accept that. I am sorry to let you know that your beliefs and perceptions have resulted in biased/unethical edits by you and Rani2010 with a host of sockpuppets. I am pretty proud of wiki admins of doing a good job to maintain the integrity of this page.

Thank you. --Karan1974 (talk) 19:19, 22 September 2011 (UTC)