Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/NEDOCHAN/Archive

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Kent Bargo, although they were never mentioned and they were never active at ANI, immediately came to the defense of NEDOCHAN at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#A_few_editors_have_been_reverting_all_edits_which_replaced_a_questionable_source_with_other_reliable_sources_such_as_espn.com. this ani]. Diffs: 1, 2. Then they retaliated with their own ANI against the editor who accused NEDOCHAN at this diff.3. The user history shows even before this situation, they complained to an administrator about a different topic in the same manner also at these diffs, two days apart. 4, 5. They both also seem to be active in the same articles which are related to BLPs of mixed martial artists.Tony Ferguson, Charles Oliveira, Dominick Reyes, Khabib Nurmagomedov, Justin Gaethje and a lot more. Both accounts are used to support eachother in various topics and abuse the system in edit wars, content disputes, anis and similar incidents. They also seem to use abbreviations in the same form. I think a CU needed to be absolutely sure but I feel confident they are the same person. Magnus Dominus (talk) 13:34, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Kent Bargo doesn't appear to be jumping to NEDOCHAN's defence. The comment and subsequent (apparent) retaliatory ANI discussion started by Kent Bargo mentioned three users: myself, Cassiopeia and NEDOCHAN.

I also think it's worth noting that the ANI discussion which Kent Bargo commented in was created by Magnus Dominus, in which Magnus Dominus complained about NEDOCHAN voicing suspicions of sockpuppetry and requesting a SPI be started on Magnus Dominus, making this SPI seem somewhat retaliatory and in bad faith. Especially seeing as the ANI discussion was quickly closed with no action taken against the reported users. Just saying. – 2 . O . Boxing  14:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I am surprise of this user knows how to properly use a Sockpuppet investigations and suddenly found it ways to Reliable sources/Noticeboard (in the user early edits). Kent Bargo (talk) 21:28, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Kent Bargo is clearly jumping to NEDOCHAN's defense. The ANI discussion was closed because it was too long of a case for the ANI resources as it was stated by the closing admin, not that it wasn't warrented. The closing admin shares why they couldn't look into the issue detailed here in | this section of their talk page. Kent Bargo clearly rushed into the defense of NEDOCHAN in the ANI and opened a retaliatory ANI after. The commentator above, Squared.Circle.Boxing, was also suspected of being in some kind of connection with NEDOCHAN in the ANI. It can be seen in these sections of their talk pages.User_talk:Squared.Circle.Boxing, User_talk:Squared.Circle.Boxing, User_talk:NEDOCHAN/Archive_2, User_talk:NEDOCHAN. So Squared.Circle.Boxing's actions as a commentator suits the typical defensive instinct of a friend. In this case their friend is NEDOCHAN or Kent Bargo who's very likely the same person.Magnus Dominus (talk) 14:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Comment Both Kent Bargo and NEDOCHAN are mma regular editors and it is extremely common for mma editors to edit similar mma related pages and use the same abbreviations. The timecard of Kent Bargo and NEDOCHAN does not indicate they are the same editor. Cassiopeia(talk) 12:05, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The editor above, Cassiopeia, was also the last and the third editor that was accused at this ani - which I opened a couple days ago -, along with NEDOCHAN and Squared.Circle.Boxing who commentated in defense of NEDOCHAN here also. These three editors' connections were pretty much established in detail at the ANI. Some of the obvious connections between NEDOCHAN and CASSIOPEIA are here, very similar to the connection between Squared.Circle.Boxing had. Diff, Link 1, Link 2, Link 3.


 * So, it's pretty much obvious, this is just another attempt of a friend's rush to the defense of NEDOCHAN or Kent Bargo, who are very likely the same person anyways.Magnus Dominus (talk) 14:16, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Comment I have more than 1000 mma pages on my watchlist and I am one of the regular mma editors, for such I do have some observation on who are the regular mma editors and their edits. I have communicated with mma editors, new or regulars, thousands of times to explain certain guidelines, clarify things, placing warning templates, praise editors with good job done, collaborate work and some of their talk pages also on my watch list. My communication, edits, IP address, ID confirmation could easy be checked out and so are the timecards and IP addresses of the Kent Bargo and NEDOCHAN. Enough say and let's checkuser to do their work and inform of their finding of this SPI. Cassiopeia(talk) 21:48, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Kent Bargo's suspicious behaviour continues. In the last 4 days they were only active on the ANI where they went to the defense of NEDOCHAN, Cassiopeia and Squared.Circle.Boxing; and on their own retaliation ANI against me along with this SPI. The editor that had never been active at any ANI, suddenly has become involved with nothing but WP:ANI, although they were never mentioned or called by any editor. Special:Contributions/Kent_Bargo. Cassiopeia's comment above however suits WP:OWNERSHIP perfectly. I guess they are trying to keep their ownership among all MMA content by rushing to the defense of "their hard-working editors under them" or the opposite, trying to cause trouble against any editor that damages their ownership. In this case me, with the ANI I opened against them.Magnus Dominus (talk) 08:29, 7 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Kent Bargo was 100% NEDOCHAN and their friend's admin friends saved this editor from a sure permanent ban. I'm just puting it here for the history. Eventually, someone will read all of this and ban everyone that's involved in this mess and revoke their talk page access. Just don't blame the guy that will do it. I will have nothing to do with that guy.Magnus Dominus (talk) 12:44, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Running this against the interaction timeline, other than recent event there is little overlap between both editors. This filing arose from the same dispute. I'd want to see stronger evidence (diffs) before running any check. - Mailer Diablo 23:12, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Update: Also see outcome at Sockpuppet investigations/Lordpermaximum. - Mailer Diablo 00:15, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing any evidence that these two share anything beyond an interest in MMA. As  noted, the timecards are quite different, but a picture is worth 1000 words.  I don't know what's going on with the craziness at Sockpuppet investigations/Lordpermaximum, but there's nothing that that makes me think these two are socks.  I recognize that MMA has many disciplines, but combined SPI/ANI is not one of them.  Closing with no action taken. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:02, 9 February 2021 (UTC)