Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/NYC 55david/Archive

Report date May 1 2010, 14:20 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

The IPs have the same interest in the content and articles (more so 116.240.167.161) who keep re-adding the content even though the content and sources fail Wiki's policies and guidelines. Bidgee (talk) 14:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by Bidgee (talk)

What I believe has happened here is I was editing through Wikipedia without logging in, and then logged in when I couldn't edit without logging in. That I believe is what is going on here. I heavily will deny 'self promotion crap' (as stated by a user) or that the bid is an 'April Fools Joke', as both are not true. As mentioned, considering I myself am involved in the bid, live in Hobart and know the legitamacy of it as well as the support it has gained, I think my edits clearly hold some relevance compared to a couple of people who have no idea about it who live on the 'mainland' NYC 55david (talk) 05:40, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.
 * You clearly used your IP and your account to edit Hobart to breach the 3RR (the article had no protection at the time, so your claim of not being able to edit is untrue). You deny that you are self promoting but yet you admit that you are part of the group, you have a big COI and your claims of support is not supported by anyone (AOC and the State and Federal Government). Bidgee (talk) 05:55, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Comments by other users
 * The Bass Strait is never a hindrance to anything - more Tasmanianborn persons live in Melbourne than do in Tasmania SatuSuro 14:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

I think this is a case of aligned Australian interest, not socking. The two IPs geolocate to Melbourne and Tasmania (383 miles apart, with substantial water). I just don't see a coordinated edit war, although there is certainly a dispute.&mdash;Kww(talk) 14:31, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * Geolocate is useless (in Australia, does work with Telstra IP's), doesn't mean that if it isn't from the same editor, it depends on a number of factors (must not forget that Tassie is linked to Melbourne). Two examples, I live in a rural part of SE NSW however my IP shows that I'm near Newcastle or sometimes Melbourne (about 400-800km away) [Just did a geolocate on myself an it says I'm near Canberra Airport, which is some 350km away] or in the Northern Territory everyones IP is from South Australia (except for the NT Government). The IP's are both from the same ISP. Bidgee (talk) 14:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I have no objection to another admin moving on this case.&mdash;Kww(talk) 14:44, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Given that he has basically admitted to the violation above, I have to believe that the IPs are his, but he committed the violation without being aware it was a violation (basically because the way the case was going, he was going to get away with it, so why would he confess if he realized he was in violation?). He has been given a final warning here. Let's hold this case open for a day or two: if the edit warring begins anew, I'll go ahead and block.&mdash;Kww(talk) 06:14, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't see much else to be done from an SPI perspective, given the user admitted to have edited as the IPs. Judge their edits as one, and get another admin to block or report to the appropriate venue (i.e. WP:AN3) if the edit warring starts up again. –MuZemike 18:19, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. I'll keep my eyes on the situation.&mdash;Kww(talk) 18:40, 2 May 2010 (UTC)