Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nancyinthehouse/Archive

28 September 2013

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 * Modus operandi overview
 * All accounts edit tendentiously in World Mission Society Church of God and Ahn Sahng-hong. Anything unfavourable about the church is removed.
 * Warnings: All accounts have received warnings on their talk pages.
 * Edit warring: User:Nancyinthehouse, User:Sticks830, and IP:75.67.112.116 have received 24 hour blocks for EW.
 * Single purpose accounts: User:Galemw2, User:Watts9595, User:Lucykim55, and IP:75.67.112.116 are clear SPAs, as is User:Sticks830 effectively. All sleepers are SPAs.


 * 1. Nancyinthehouse meat/sock with Galemw2 and Watts9595
 * 1.1 Response time: User:Nancyinthehouse has a history of reverting/deleting within hours of other editors in the two articles. (Sixteen supporting diffs with response time in HH:MM:, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , .)
 * 1.2 Yet when both Ahn Sahng-hong and World Mission Society Church of God received major updates with addition of material referenced by secondary sources on 22-25 August, User:Nancyinthehouse stopped editing for 5 days, cf. Special:Contributions/Nancyinthehouse, and made no edit before.
 * Enter new User:Galemw2
 * 1.3 03:22, 26 August 2013: User account Galemw2 was created,.
 * 1.4 03:29, 26 August 2013: Within 7 minutes from account creation User:Galemw2 starts deleting sourced material,, and.
 * 1.5 They then post four comments totalling 9000+ bytes on the article talk page,, , , and , basically objecting to every source supporting the newly added material.
 * 1.6 08:28, 27 August 2013: Without avaiting talk page discussion, User:Galemw2 in 11 edits in 36 minutes deletes all added material from the article,, reducing article size from 61,963 bytes to 4,312 bytes.
 * 1.7 Their shouting edit summaries reflect the WP:TEND editing, e.g.:
 * Notice the clear pro-World Mission Society Church of God stand in the last quoted ES. Compare it with an edit summary made by User:Nancyinthehouse:
 * 1.8 12:22, 27 August 2013: Their edits are, and a uw-vandalism1 is posted on their talk page,.
 * 1.9 14:28, 27 August 2013: User:Galemw2 makes 1 single talk page post,, after being warned, but then disappears for 26+ hours making their next edit not in article Ahn Sahng-hong but joining an edit war in article World Mission Society Church of God on.
 * Enter new User:Watts9595
 * 1.10 17:26, 27 August 2013: User account Watts9595 was created,, 3 hours after User:Galemw2 stopped editing.
 * 1.11 Within 8 minutes from account creation User:Watts9595 starts editing in.
 * 1.12 The edit is a copy-paste of the article from 11 July, . That revision was saved by User:Sticks830.
 * 1.13 The edit summary refers to an older 3O response given by S. Rich also on 11 July, . The 3O involved User:Sticks830.
 * 1.14 17:34-19:00, 27 August 2013: The same -10,530 bytes edit is made thrice,, , and , breaching WP:BRD. They are reverted by 3 different editors, , , and.
 * 1.15 19:24, 27 August 2013: Having already made 3 reverts in World Mission Society Church of God, User:Watts9595 goes canvassing,, asking for "assistance" because "It looks like a potential edit war ...".
 * 1.16 Notice the wording used by User:Watts9595:
 * "someone, who was not signed in, made drastic changes to the page"
 * User:Nancyinthehouse has repeatedly used similar wording in edit summaries as an argument for reverting, e.g.:
 * 1.17 As S. Rich politely declines getting involved,, User:Watts9595 then posts talk page comments, et al., and continues edit warring, , for which they eventually are warned with a uw-3rr,.
 * 1.18 Admin and SPI trainee clerk on his talk page in reply to S. Rich comments about Watts9595: "I'm afraid I'm suspicious of a brand new editor coming along and making such a massive change to the article",.
 * 1.19 20:57, 27 August 2013: User:Watts9595 having reverted 4 times in World Mission Society Church of God, turn their attention to edit warring in the other article, Ahn Sahng-hong, 11 edits in 40 minutes deletes all added material from the article,, reducing article size from 51,620 bytes to 2,003 bytes. Notice the similarity with the modus operandi of User:Galemw2 in section 1.6 above where article through is reduced in size from 61,963 bytes to 4,312 bytes.
 * Enter User:Nancyinthehouse
 * 1.20 21:31, 27 August 2013: User:Nancyinthehouse now appears again, first in, then goes on 21:38, 27 August 2013 to support Galemw2 in the other talk page discussion,.
 * 1.21 21:55, 27 August 2013: User:Nancyinthehouse then in Ahn Sahng-hong copy-pastes her own article version from 3 May, . Notice the similarity with the modus operandi of User:Watts9595 in section 1.12 above.
 * 1.22 All three accounts continue to edit war, e.g.
 * User:Nancyinthehouse:, , ,
 * User:Galemw2:
 * User:Watts9595:
 * They post mutually supportive talk page comments, e.g.
 * User:Nancyinthehouse:, , , , ,
 * User:Galemw2: ,
 * User:Watts9595:, , , , ,
 * 1.23 13:43, 28 August 2013: The editing pattern of the 3 users is brought up for discussion on ANI,.
 * 1.24 Despite being notified all three,, , , only User:Nancyinthehouse replies on ANI.
 * 1.25 Assumption: I believe the above is sufficient behavioural evidence to conclude WP:DUCK and loud quacking. In effect both puppets are WP:MEAT in WP:IDENTICAL, WP:REPEATING for WP:TIPPING and WP:XS on talk pages for the master. I especially point out section 1.24 with the lack of replies from the puppets on ANI. They weren't there and they are WP:NOTHERE.
 * 1.20 21:31, 27 August 2013: User:Nancyinthehouse now appears again, first in, then goes on 21:38, 27 August 2013 to support Galemw2 in the other talk page discussion,.
 * 1.21 21:55, 27 August 2013: User:Nancyinthehouse then in Ahn Sahng-hong copy-pastes her own article version from 3 May, . Notice the similarity with the modus operandi of User:Watts9595 in section 1.12 above.
 * 1.22 All three accounts continue to edit war, e.g.
 * User:Nancyinthehouse:, , ,
 * User:Galemw2:
 * User:Watts9595:
 * They post mutually supportive talk page comments, e.g.
 * User:Nancyinthehouse:, , , , ,
 * User:Galemw2: ,
 * User:Watts9595:, , , , ,
 * 1.23 13:43, 28 August 2013: The editing pattern of the 3 users is brought up for discussion on ANI,.
 * 1.24 Despite being notified all three,, , , only User:Nancyinthehouse replies on ANI.
 * 1.25 Assumption: I believe the above is sufficient behavioural evidence to conclude WP:DUCK and loud quacking. In effect both puppets are WP:MEAT in WP:IDENTICAL, WP:REPEATING for WP:TIPPING and WP:XS on talk pages for the master. I especially point out section 1.24 with the lack of replies from the puppets on ANI. They weren't there and they are WP:NOTHERE.


 * 2. Sticks830 (formerly Carly3737) confirmed socking on IP 75.67.112.116 and Watts9595 possibly socking on IP 75.67.112.116 and therefor likely identical to Sticks830
 * 2.1 User:Sticks830 = IP:75.67.112.116: In two instances talk page comments posted from IP:75.67.112.116 are signed "Sticks830",  and, thus confirming that User:Sticks830 = IP:75.67.112.116.
 * 2.2 User:Sticks830 was formerly User:Carly3737, WP:CHUS.
 * 2.3 In an edit war on 8 July in World Mission Society Church of God IP:75.67.112.116 makes 5 reverts,, followed by 1 revert by User:Carly3737 (aka User:Sticks830). User:Carly3737 was indef blocked, , and User:Sticks830 and IP:75.67.112.116 were blocked for 24 hours, WP:3RRNB.
 * 2.4 21:50, 9 July 2013: User:Sticks830 fresh out from their 24 hour block continues the same edit war,, and.
 * 2.5 User:Watts9595 possibly socking on IP:75.67.112.116: In the edit war on 27 August 2013 in World Mission Society Church of God mentioned in section 1.14 above, the same -10,530 bytes edit is made thrice:
 * , and
 * 2.6 User:Watts9595 a few minutes after account creation on 27 August copy-pastes User:Sticks830's version of the WMSCOG article from 11 July,, cf. section 1.12 above.
 * 2.7 User:Watts9595 refer in their ES to an older 3O response also from on 11 July, in a dispute involving User:Sticks830, cf. section 1.13 above.
 * 2.8 WP:SIMNAME between Carly3737 and Watts9595.
 * 2.9 Assumption: The above observations give reason to believe that just as User:Sticks830 (formerly User:Carly3737) is confirmed socking on IP 75.67.112.116, so is User:Watts9595 socking on IP 75.67.112.116, and logically User:Watts9595 then is identical to User:Sticks830. If the above behavioural evidence won't suffice I request endorsement of a CU to provide technical evidence to clarify the question.
 * 2.8 WP:SIMNAME between Carly3737 and Watts9595.
 * 2.9 Assumption: The above observations give reason to believe that just as User:Sticks830 (formerly User:Carly3737) is confirmed socking on IP 75.67.112.116, so is User:Watts9595 socking on IP 75.67.112.116, and logically User:Watts9595 then is identical to User:Sticks830. If the above behavioural evidence won't suffice I request endorsement of a CU to provide technical evidence to clarify the question.


 * 3. Sticks830 possibly a sock of Nancyinthehouse
 * 3.1 User:Nancyinthehouse in March-June 2013 was active in both articles, cf..
 * 3.2 20:55, 13 June 2013: User account Carly3737 (later renamed to Sticks830) was created,.
 * 3.3 21:04, 13 June 2013: Within 9 minutes from account creation User:Sticks830/Carly3737 make their first edit in and continues to be actively editing in the article and its talk page in June and July.
 * 3.4 After creation of User:Sticks830/Carly3737 on 13 June, User:Nancyinthehouse suddenly only makes 3 edits in the WMSCOG article and its talk pages during the next two months, cf..
 * 3.5 User:Nancyinthehouse continues in the same period with editing Ahn Sahng-hong and its talk page. In the middle of a talk page comment 23:39, 11 July 2013,, she writes:
 * "The current 3O result can be found in the talkpage of World Mission Society Church of God User:Sticks830."
 * 3.6 The above observations beg the question: have User:Nancyinthehouse and User:Sticks830/Carly3737 been socking on the same IP? I call for a clerk to endorse a CU providing technical evidence.


 * 4. Nancyinthehouse possibly a continuation of Lucykim55
 * 4.1 03:14, 27 March 2013: User:Lucykim55, another clear SPA, cf., was indef blocked for disruptive editing,.
 * 4.2 07:24, 27 March 2013: User account Nancyinthehouse was created,, only 4 hours later.
 * 4.3 07:47, 27 March 2013: User:Nancyinthehouse makes her first edit in a 6 year old section of.
 * 4.4 WP:EVASION: "New accounts which engage in the same behavior as a banned editor or blocked account in the same context, and who appear to be editing Wikipedia solely for that purpose, are subject to the remedies applied to the editor whose behavior they are imitating." The observations above call for a clerk to endorse a CU providing technical evidence.


 * 5. Possible sleepers
 * The following accounts are included for completeness. Personally I believe they are all abandoned, except maybe for User:Mike2910. I leave it to an admin or clerk to determine if anything needs to be done.
 * (sleeper): Used once in the edit war 8 July mentioned in section 2.3 above, . Not used since. If anything a sock of Watts9595 Sticks830/Carly3737. makes the following comment: "Another account has come from nowhere: User:Mike2910. I'm thinking we need to impose socking blocks on all accounts with Carly being the master. For the moment, I've semi-protected the page for a few days." on.
 * (sleeper, warned, possibly abandonned): Only in use 29-30 March. Gets two warnings. Quits editing.
 * (sleeper, warned, possibly abandonned): Only in use 28-29 March. Only 3 edits. First edit 6 minutes after account creation. Gets two warnings. Quits editing.
 * (sleeper, likely abandonned, possibly continued as User:Lucykim55): Only used 24 May 2012. First edit 4 minutes after account creation. Only 5 edits. User:Lucykim55 is created a couple of weeks later, . Maybe a forgotten password? Sam Sailor Sing 23:58, 28 September 2013 (UTC)


 * 6. Addenda
 * Two more: User:Star jds and User:Angiebox7 both created within the last two hours. One edit each, both in Talk:World Mission Society Church of God, and . Both pro-church edits. Sam Sailor  Sing 17:11, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * One more: User:Elizabeth077. Borderline'ish. I could be wrong on this one. User has not (yet) edited in the two articles subject to this investigation. User makes a request for a book source this morning, and the sockmaster within 10 minutes delivers in the article exactly what was asked for,, , and finds time to reply on and on User talk:Elizabeth077. And receives a cookie back from Elizabeth077, . (Using  in ones 2nd edit?!) Neither of the two users have any previous edits in Futurism. Sam Sailor  Sing 17:48, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Found a clue to User:Elizabeth077: Account created 26 May on en.wiki, then on es.wiki and ko.wiki. (The church is Korean.) Account then used to edit the Spanish language articles of Ahn Sahng-hong and World Mission Society Church of God,Elizabeth077 ES Contribs cf. Nancyinthehouse ES Contribs. Nancyinthehouse was indef blocked on Spanish Wiki. Sam Sailor Sing 21:35, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * And one more: User:Trekkerguy7. Korean speaking. Jumps to the support of the socks in both talk pages,, . I believe it merits a more thorough CU for sleepers here. Sam Sailor Sing 09:22, 3 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I know SPI is backlogged and that you are only few to handle the workload, so thank you for what you do. But your decision to close at this point is not understood. The behavioural evidence summarized in e.g. section 1.25 ought to merit blocking. As should the confirmed IP socking in section 2. I ask for a reconsideration of this case. I also ask for a reply to my latest request for a more thorough CU for sleepers. Thanks. Sam Sailor Sing 07:34, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

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 * It doesn't look like socking from a technical standpoint. I only checked a couple accounts and they are all very to be the same user. Obviously,, so I can't investigate canvassing or similar coordination. Reaper Eternal (talk) 10:40, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Meatpuppetry and/or offsite canvassing seems to be the likely explanation here, which may be dealt with at other venues. I cannot recall which case, but I know that World Mission Society Church of God has had meatpuppetry/canvassing issues in the past as well. Someguy1221 (talk) 01:22, 8 October 2013 (UTC)