Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Neo./Archive

17 August 2013

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Neo. is currently unable to login to his account, he has created a temp account in which he says he does not recall his password. He is topic banned from the 2002 Gujarat article after an AE enforcement request, he was previously blocked for socking, and this suspect sock was created before the Neo. account was unblocked. Neo. was obbsessed with the 02 violence article, specifically in removing the academically sourced content which has been added. The suspect sock has three edits, one from 12 February 2011 and today two, on the 02 violence article to remove content. Darkness Shines (talk) 15:51, 17 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Sanction Darkness Shines (talk) 06:52, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

I am adding Vatsan34 for the following reasons. Edit by neo. "Also it is well-known fact that conspiracy theorists tends to screw straight forward cases and publish books to earn money."(bolding mine) Edit by Vatsan34 "while books written by foreigners can be easily spinned, as those authors can be easily given false info! That is what Tourist Guides usually do to earn a lot!"(bolding mine) Vatsan34 edit "Can we change the sentence to carried out by Muslims now?" (bolding in original post) Neo. was of course a tad obsessed with Muslim mobs carrying out the attack. This section ought to give you an idea There are also the fact that Vatsan34 has copied my creation of a template and a catagory, template & Cat Neo. was of course very very insistent on violence against Hindus featuring prominently in the 2002 Godhra article, as can be seen from the last link I gave to the talk page. Darkness Shines (talk) 22:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * This is getting really funny. I did not have internet access for past one week and was unable to counter my arguments. I can easily prove that Nero is not my sockpuppet. User:Darkness Shines is now blaming people who uncovered the mistakes of his/her sources and he/she is hell bent on accusing Hindus(which I am not). I believe he/she has a vendetta to prove that Indians are always vandals, sockpuppets and blah blahs. Such a Racist mindset(winks). If you consider bolding and editing articles as evidence of sockpuppetry, then everyone here is a sockpuppet. I do not have any motive to come in another IP to do edits. This is an attack on my credibility as Wikipedian. I am here for the past four years and I was very neutral in editing any article. You can go through my contributions, if you want. People with an agenda, might suspect others of having an agenda. Can I claim User:Darkness Shines,User:MezzoMezzo and User:Maunus as sockpuppets, for they are all insistent on violence against Muslims featuring prominently in the 2002 Godhra article?? (I had to edit from my workplace now. I was shocked when I checked my mail after a week, today. Get me clear - I am very serious now, as editing Wikipedia is not encouraged in my workplace, yet I could not digest the blame on me) - Vatsan34 (talk) 04:16, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

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 * - For our information, can you please link to the sanction? Thanks. Rschen7754 05:23, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * - on Vatsan34, needed on Neo.rocco (not seeing the similarities, a few diffs are needed to explain; of course it could come up by CU anyway if the accounts are confirmed). Rschen7754 06:41, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It appears that Neo. and Vatsan34 are the same. Neo.rocco has not been checked. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:56, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Closing as unlikely. Rschen7754 04:00, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

15 September 2013

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Neo. claimed to have lost his password and created a temp account. That temp account an image on commons. The image was added to an article edited by Neo. and the Neo. temp account by the suspect sock. I requested on this suspect sock talk if this was Neo. and told it he had to link the accounts, since I posted to the talk page the account has been unused. Darkness Shines (talk) 23:42, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Blackwizard2000 is already under an SPI here, it was not until I had filed it that I noticed this account is a SPA and all of their edits have had the sole purpose of reverting bit by bit the 2002 Gujarat violence article to Neo. prefered version from before he got his topic ban, the article as in now stands is back to where it was months ago. All academic sources have been removed, these are the sources Neo. said were "academic crap". Darkness Shines (talk) 23:48, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

More on the Blackwizard2000 account. The account had added a lot of pap to the article Bombay Riots which I had reverted. An IP just came along and restored it, this IP is in the same range and has the same ISP as the IP's used in the 02 article. I also note the ISP is a mobile one, Vodafone, Neo. edited extensively from a mobile device. Darkness Shines (talk) 02:20, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

The Blackwizard2000 account also has the same style of writing as Neo. contents contents Darkness Shines (talk) 10:16, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I am still of the opinion that Vatsan34 is a sock, this edit from one of the IPs adds a timeline of events to the 02 article, Vatsan34 had created a timline article which was speedied, it is currently in userspace. Vatsan34 also edits via a mobile device. And Neo. also called those who opposed his edits on the 02 article a "gang", so does Vatsan34. Darkness Shines (talk) 10:51, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes,anyone who argues for the neutrality of 2002 Gujarat violence is an idiotic Kafir, who should be silenced by any means. Go ahead mates. Darkness Shines and Neo edited the same article, so they are sockpuppets too. - Vatsan34 (talk) 16:15, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

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 * I am unable to provide further evidence as the BW2000 account has not edited since the article was protected, and given this SPI I get the feeling that account will now be dropped. Darkness Shines (talk) 16:16, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I will point out that all the edits to to the 02 article dug out stuff which has not been in the article for months, the only editors I know of who prefered that version were MrT, Neo. and Vatsan34. And that is all I got unless the sock returns. Darkness Shines (talk) 16:21, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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 * It's possilikely (the mix of and ) that Neo. and Abhi are related. They do use the same device over the same type of network, but it's a crowded network and common device. Blackwizard2000 is  related to this group, but in all truths, it's an  connection because the data tells a few different stories. I would be willing to hear out the idea that Vatsan34 could be a sock of Blackwizard2000 (or vice-versa) but I need more evidence than what was provided here. --  DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  07:41, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I see significant differences between Blackwizard2000 and the others, so not going to block. With regards to the other two, I do not see a claim of sockpuppetry. I do see a claim that these two are the same person, and you are correct. You are correct because Abhi posted early on "I had forgotten password of my account User:Neo.. So I had created new account User:Temporary name for account "Neo." and I had requested here to swap usernames. But due to some reasons, my request was not fulfilled.". I am not going to take any action unless there is an indication of abuse, though I argue the connection should probably be made a little clearer on a user page, or something. -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 16:04, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Closing after no response since my latest comment Sh i r ik  ( Questions or Comments? ) 23:05, 2 November 2013 (UTC)