Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Neptunekh/Archive

07 May 2014

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Notice the similarities of all their user pages; the fact that the first two (User:Neptunekh and User:Neptunekh2) have virtually the same names; and the fact that User:Venustar84's first edit was to remove some content from User:Neptunekh's page and onto their's. When a user mentioned all this to them, their first action was to promptly blank the page. G S Palmer (talk) 00:43, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

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 * Also note that the user page of Neptunekh2 says "Name: Kristine", which KristineAllison84 also calls herself. The use of underscores in every multi-word link (see the edits of the users) also gives it away. Nymf (talk) 16:48, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * This user has a WP:COMPETENCE problem big time and constantly switching accounts is making her very difficult to keep under control.  Spinning Spark  17:00, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Also note the fact that the usernames Venustar84 and KristineAllison84 both end in 84, which (incidentally?) matches up with the birthdate provided by User:Neptunekh2. G S Palmer (talk) 17:12, 7 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Given the user admits socking, I see no need for a CheckUser. I suggest the we ask  to list all their accounts here, and choose one to edit with. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 15:40, 8 May 2014 (UTC).


 * I think checkuser is still wanted to find sleepers and uncovered active socks. I have a strong feeling there are more here.  I have seen a family of socks a year or two back with a similar MO, but not quite convincing enough evidence to name them here.  Mostly blocked in any case.  Spinning  Spark  15:58, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I have asked them on my talk page if there are any more accounts we don't know about; of course, there's no reason for them to reply truthfully or at all. G S Palmer (talk) 16:11, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Regarding the competence issues above, there is this restriction that was placed upon Neptunekh2 by Elen of the Roads. Among other things, it states that the user is banned from creating categories or articles in the main space. As far as I can tell, that ban has been broken several times over. It also states that The Blade of the Northern Lights will be acting as a mentor, so perhaps he can shed some light on this. Nymf (talk) 17:45, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes I admit to using more than one account I was banned from wikipedia a few years and I also moved a few times. I'm told not to do this again. Please don;t be angry. Venustar84 (talk) 01:14, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes and probably more than I can remember I used the account neptunekh2. I have mental health issues and I want to stick to this account so it won't confuse people. Venustar84 (talk) 16:52, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not really up for mentoring anyone, I'm still too zoned in on my current work and far too depressing to be around right now, but if a mentor is going to be part of the deal here I'll help find someone. As far as I'm concerned, the restriction should remain in place. Let me know. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 17:57, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

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I'm taking a short break for Wikipedia for everyone's best interests== I think a break for about a week or 2 would be in Wikipedia's best interest. Plus I have alot of sports I'm doing lately. Venustar84 (talk) 20:47, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * - - Could a CU please check for confirmation plus a sleeper check which looks like it could be a possibility. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 13:36, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The only two currently active accounts I see are and, as well as a number of logged-out edits. As the editor has noted they wish only to edit via the Venustar84 account, all other accounts (including  and ) should be blocked indef and any extant topic bans be noted on the Venustar84 account. In my opinion Venustar84 should be held to a strict single account requirement with no intentional logged-out editing with any deviations reported here.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  19:45, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ,, and blocked indef per the suggestion above. I will note the past restrictions on 's talk page. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 07:33, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

17 July 2015

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Venustar84 and IP address both asked questions on Reference desk/Miscellaneous, which is major evidence in this case. (Few diffs:  ) IP address asked help on help desk for an article called Ashley Gardner, which was previously edited by venustar84. See history.

Venustar84 is evading block by editing from Bluestarcanada after the block. Bluestarcanada started editing (after taking a break of one week) on 10th July just after the block of venustar84 on 9th july. That is not correct Supdiop ( Talk 🔹 Contribs ) 11:05, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Additional evidence:

1) Venustar84 has a habit of asking questions on reference desks, especially Miscellaneous. Ip address and Bluestarcanada also asked questions on reference desks. (Editing histories: Venustar84, Bluestarcanada, 174.7.167.7)

2)Both accounts are interested in lgbt topics and asked questions and created categories about them.(See histories) IP address is also interested in lgbt related topics.

3) Venustar84 asked questions about ancient Egypt in January and in June Bluestarcanada asked that ‎Are any of the modern Egyptians descended from the ancients?

4) IP address seems to have not changed for years. IP address has edited lgbt and Canada related topics. Venustar84 and Bluestarcanada are also interested in Canada related topics. IP address is from Canada.

5) Actually anyone can easily come to the conclusion that suspected sockpuppets are operated by venustar84 by just looking at the editing history.

6) IP address edited talk pages of venustar84 and other previous account.
 * I am pinging to let them know about this investigation.


 * Editor interaction tool is not working. If it works, we can get more evidence.

--Supdiop ( Talk 🔹 Contribs ) 10:37, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Added Pegasusphinx. According to Medeis, there are many other accounts, so looking for sleeper accounts will be useful. - Supdiop ( Talk 🔹 Contribs ) 19:47, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * It's a duck, but I do wonder on what basis was blocked. In the 2014 SPI history here, it's noted that there are other previous accounts and that she was going to stick to Venustar84. As far as I can tell, she stuck to that one until someone blocked it for block evasion last week. It all sounds like a misunderstanding to me. Nymf (talk) 12:26, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, looks like it was already discussed briefly at User talk:Liz. Seems block evasion was not really the issue with Venustar84, in which case, no further explanation or reply to my comment above is really needed. Nymf (talk) 12:46, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It is wrong to say that Bluestarcanada is block evading, though. The account has not edited since June 11, while Venustar84 was blocked in July. The IP, however, is legitimately block evading. Nymf (talk) 17:07, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought it was July (because June almost looks like July), I corrected it. Thanks for pointing out. Supdiop ( Talk 🔹 Contribs ) 17:29, 18 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pinging me, . With one recent exception explained below, I don't have any additional evidence, as I don't collect it as a habit.  But I am quite aware that the user I think of as Venustar84 has had many alternate accounts over the years, usually with mythological and astronomical components in the name.  Except for a recent event reported to the wikimedia foundation, I am not personally aware of any outright incontrovertibly actionable behavior, although one can't say VS84 was not well warned of people's concerns if one looks at her talk page.


 * Not being an admin, I do not have all the facts, but the frequent use of alternate accounts has not been for bad faith acts (to my knowledge)--i.e., no double voting or arguing as two users in one discussion or dispute. And the names and topics of interest, lgtb issues, the Vancouver area and events and travel related to the WA/BC area, Asperger's and other mental health-related issues, Japanese animation, etc., are so blatantly clear that I often responded, "Venustar84", why are you asking this under a different account?" which never elicited a denial that the new account was in fact VS84.


 * I am aware from her user history that VS84 has been banned from creating certain types of categories, and has used other accounts to get around this ban. I also see that the recent indef of VS84 was for block evasion, but you'll have to ask the blocking admin for specifics.  This is an unfortunate case, in that the user is normally benign and behaves when admonished.  She was treated with a lot of tolerance at the ref desks and on her talk page.  But some recent behavior has definitely crossed the line, and been dealt with.


 * As to this specific case, I see no other possibility than that 174 & Bluestarcanada are socks, and if VS84 has been indeffed for block evasion, they should be too, regardless of timelines.


 * Also, it is rather obvious that this recent ref desk thread by  about contacting an underage transgender person is further socking by VS84 (or worse, impersonation of VS84) by the username, overlapping s in that name, and the topic of the post.


 * Admins who have a reason to know about the wikimedia matter I alluded to can email me and I will give diffs. μηδείς (talk) 18:23, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * - In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  15:47, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * - to compare Bluestarcanada with Venustar84 based on the provided evidence.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:57, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * By the way,, why is blocked? For what kind of block evasion?   Vanjagenije   (talk)  18:08, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * All unblocked accounts now blocked and tagged. Also tagged Venustar84. Risker's block was explained in the link provided by Nymf. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:58, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * All unblocked accounts now blocked and tagged. Also tagged Venustar84. Risker's block was explained in the link provided by Nymf. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:58, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * All unblocked accounts now blocked and tagged. Also tagged Venustar84. Risker's block was explained in the link provided by Nymf. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:58, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * All unblocked accounts now blocked and tagged. Also tagged Venustar84. Risker's block was explained in the link provided by Nymf. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:58, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * All unblocked accounts now blocked and tagged. Also tagged Venustar84. Risker's block was explained in the link provided by Nymf. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:58, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

08 October 2015

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Canadian just like the sock master. Same type of questions at WP:RD. Same category additions with underscores left in the link. Quack, quack!. IP looks stable since a couple of months, so a lengthy block would do good. Nymf (talk) 06:27, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

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 * Blocked 3 months for obvious block evasion.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:06, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

06 December 2015

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Previously reported in the July 17, 2015 report. Not sure why it was never blocked, as the user is still editing logged out (it's a stable IP, as noted in the previous report). Same kind of RD questions, responded on the talk page of a confirmed sock, same kind of underscore categories, etc. Nymf (talk) 11:07, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

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 * . I blocked this IP for 3 months. It was not blocked in July because it stopped editing few days before the investigation was concluded and did not continue until September.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  11:45, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

15 January 2016

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The user shows several normal tropes after multiple indefs and abuse of different accounts disrupting the ref desk and elsewhere, including threats of self harm: she geolocates to the Vancouver, BC area, is concerned with public transport in the Vancouver and Seattle areas, is concerned with gender issues, is concerned with the Asperger's spectrum, and shows an interest in children's fiction. (If I need to show this with diffs I can, but a perusal of the User:Neptunekh and User:Venustar84 accounts should give the established pattern.)

With User:64.141.83.200 we have:


 * 1) geolocation Surrey, BC
 * 2) inquiry about public transit routes at the miscellaneous ref desk diff
 * 3) juvenile television shows diff (this is the first of over a dozen of the same article)
 * 4) transgender issues diff Lana Wachowski is an interest of the user.

μηδείς (talk) 22:07, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I wasn't sure what to do with an IP, but the behavioural evidence was so clear. My sole concern is whether or not I need to point out the same behaviours from the previous registered accounts. μηδείς (talk) 22:58, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, you do.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:29, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay,
 * Self-identifying as from Vancouver and looking for public transport (not that there's anything wrong with that) Hey there. What is the best way to get from Langley BC to Abbotsford bc that doesn't involve a car? The buses out there are real slow interest in public transit at ref desk


 * looking for asexual transgender material


 * Is the wikipedia reference desk an suitable place for me to ask mental health questions?


 * Category:Fictional characters on the autistic spectrum


 * I can seek more if necessary, but I think this is pretty clear. Pinging, , , and  who's an admin who I assume will be skeptical of my actions if they are unjustified.  Also,  who has recently interacted with this user.  μηδείς (talk) 01:02, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

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 * The user has been creating category listings for LGTB films, another known modus operandi, and see the user history of Mito9999 who apparently exists only to create such articles:  which, in this case was a cut-and paste copyvio. μηδείς (talk) 02:59, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

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 * I've declined the CU request. We rarely publicly disclose the IP(s) of named accounts.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:25, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I have added User:Mito9999 and user:64.114.70.78 and suggest you reconsider the declined CU request, since there are apparently 2 IP and one registered accounts involved, at the least, . μηδείς (talk)
 * In case the format doesn't work, we've also got user:2001:569:766D:AB00:D518:569E:C7FD:6292 from BC asking about children's anime on the RD. μηδείς (talk) 03:40, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Everything here is, no ongoing disruption. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

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Seems a clear cut duck. I'm only asking for a CU in case there are sleepers but I don't care that much either way. Editor is adding categories to articles nearly? always with underscores including sometimes sexual or gender orientation or identity related [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bianca_Soares&diff=prev&oldid=746572924] [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abu_Nuwas&diff=prev&oldid=736537575] [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LGBT_themes_in_mythology&diff=prev&oldid=738642802] and if not generally entertainment related [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ash_Williams&diff=prev&oldid=746207713] [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andr%C3%A9_Holland&diff=prev&oldid=739616611] [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charmed&diff=prev&oldid=746207478], they've also done this when creating categories [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:LGBT_artists_from_Iraq&oldid=736536792] [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:African_culture_in_the_United_States&oldid=744751884]. Editor has also identified as coming from BC [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science&diff=prev&oldid=748220508]. Their questions to the RD are generally entertainment related [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Entertainment&diff=prev&oldid=744688017] [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Entertainment&diff=prev&oldid=740857951] [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Entertainment&diff=prev&oldid=740858795] or weird personal advice questions [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Miscellaneous&diff=prev&oldid=742963249] (see also the question where they identified as coming from BC), one time relating to sexual orientation or identity. All of these but particularly category stuff (which I believe are the reason for the ban) are hallmarks of previous Neptunekh socks, as established in previous checkusers. Nil Einne (talk) 04:07, 10 November 2016 (UTC) Nil Einne (talk) 04:07, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

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 * This is an extremely obvious sock who's geolocation is a dead match with previous accounts. Blocked and tagged, and .-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:54, 10 November 2016 (UTC)