Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Neutralhomer/Archive

Evidence submitted by Piano non troppo
An editor with a history of having tool rights taken away from him has returned as an anon IP. After refusing mediation, and an ANI complaint with another editor, Neutralhomer announced he was retired. The anon IP started editing two days afterward. Now edits replacing disallowed material (online scheduling and uncited bios of non-notables) in TV and radio station articles are again being made with the blanket explanation that they are "vandalism". Same issues, same types of articles, same uncooperative edit justifications. Same editor? Piano non troppo (talk) 22:23, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
See Defending yourself against claims.

Comments by other users

 * Agreed. Editing patterns are too similar to be coincidence. ContinueWithCaution (talk) 13:38, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Neutralhomer nows appears to have "come out of retirement" to make the same edits as the IP. Given the history of sockpuppetry and abuse of tools, a long block on this IP is probably in order if only to help the user take a break from WP if they can't do it on their own. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 15:24, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

 * Behavioural evidence is pretty convincing. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 04:41, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Conclusions
IP blocked 1 month as a sock puppet. I'm of the opinion that Neutralhomer should remain unblocked, but only on the condition that he not use other accounts or IPs in an attempt to avoid scrutiny. I am open to discussion of this if needed, and hence I will leave this case open for now. MuZemike 03:02, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * After consultation with a couple other admins, I have decided to unblock the IP in users can utilize IPs to edit, provided they're not doing so in an abusive manner, which Neutralhomer is not doing. MuZemike 08:20, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Marking for closure. NW ( Talk ) 20:06, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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may have used a sockpuppet to evade latest block (his 21st). Neutralhomer began editing in May 2007, and has 71,680 edits. He has been blocked 21 times, the longest for 5 days.

began editing in March 2017, has 129 edits, and has never been blocked.

During the past three years, editing by Neutralhomer and Snoqualmie7 has overlapped on 35 pages, all related to radio stations in Virginia. File:WRVA-AM 2014.png, List of radio stations in Virginia, Talk:WARV-FM, Talk:WPER (FM), Template:NPR Virginia, Template:Richmond Radio, WARV-FM, WBKU, WBOP, WCYK-FM, WFTH, WGTY, WHAR, WJFN, WJSR, WKVK, WLES, WLFV, WMXH-FM, WNRN, WNTW (AM), WPAR, WPER (FM), WPIR (FM), WPZR, WRIH, WRIQ, WRVL, WRXL, WUSQ-FM, WVRL, WVTF, WWLB, WWLV, WXGI.

At 07:27, 26 January 2020 administrator Cullen328 blocked Neutralhomer, with an expiration of 72 hours, for personal attacks or violations of the harassment policy, specifically battlefield behavior at Talk:Pauley Perrette.

(who was not involved in the battlefield behavior) had last edited 2½ days before Neutralhomer was blocked. Snoqualmie7 returned to edit 36 hours after the block was imposed, made 34 edits during 1½ days to Virginia radio station pages, and concluded just 94 minutes before the block expired.

The longstanding overlap between these two accounts may, of course, be coincidental. However, given the timing of Snoqualmie7's edits during the latest period in which Neutralhomer was blocked, I believe an investigation is justified. NedFausa (talk) 06:04, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Comments by other users
''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' Reply from Snoqualmie7 (talk) 17:01, 30 January 2020 (UTC):

Greetings! Not quite sure what to say here (I didn't even know what a Sockpuppet was 24 hours ago!) FWIW, I am a fairly novice Wikipedian; my interest in editing these pages is tied to my hobby as a DXer: I use Wikipedia for data on non-local stations I receive, so I feel a sort of "reciprocal duty" to ensure the pages for stations in my own backyard are accurate. I also report updated information on Virginia radio stations to Radio-Locator and the WTFDA database (though those are not user-editable).

I am not a Sockpuppet. I don't know Neutralhomer, nor was I aware of the issues surrounding them. The overlap of edits between us is indeed coincidence. I know this is just my word against this allegation, but I wanted to at least offer some explanation. If there is more concrete evidence I can provide, please let me know. Thanks!

Snoqualmie7 (talk) 17:01, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * My alternate account is . I only use it on my phone.  My alternate account will geolocate to around the same area as my sign-in account (depending on if I am using WiFi or cell networks it might be closer). , I am requesting that you do run the SPI to prove I did not circumvent my block and to prove  innocent.  Thank you. -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 18:03 on January 30, 2020 (UTC)
 * Understood, but I am the one asking for it, on my accounts. I want no question that I have more than the two accounts attached to my name, this one and my alternate.  Currently I am being accused of sockpuppetry and an innocent person has been dragged into this.  With their permission (pinging ), can you run it if everyone agrees? -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 18:11 on January 30, 2020 (UTC)


 * Not entirely sure what that means (LOL), but I'm fine with it (especially if it might bring us closer to resolution). Snoqualmie7 (talk) 18:54, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * It was against policy for to run the checkuser, but I figured if we both agreed to it, to prove we aren't the same person and to clear things up, that would bring this to a speedy resolution.  Just an idea.  Don't know if anyone would go for it though. -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 14:13 on January 31, 2020 (UTC)


 * While I'll admit I was sort of convinced when I first saw this report, I'll point to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WARV-FM&diff=prev&oldid=777381160 – a longtime user would know to go to RM/TR and ask for this move, a user new at the time would do it halfway and then realize they can't. Xenon54 (talk) 20:15, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ...and I leave all my page moves up to as he is basically the expert on page moves.  If it's SUPER easy, then I'll attempt it, but if not (which it typically isn't easy), I'll hand it off to Mlaffs. -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 14:15 on January 31, 2020 (UTC)


 * Just for CU reference, here is a current edit from my alternate account. -  Neutralhomer has Escaped •  Talk  • 18:45, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
You need to show more than just an interest in the same topic. For example, are there any other behavioral cues they share? Do they edit the same articles in the same way? Without additional evidence, this report will be closed without action.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:12, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Such a check would be a violation of policy.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:05, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * No response from filer. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 18:12, 31 January 2020 (UTC)