Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Neverrainy/Archive

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This is probably a WP:DUCK, but since this is the first report for this user, here are the details showing these IPs to be a DUCKs. The first set of evidence can be found at Talk:TimeSplitters (series) where Neverrainy has seemingly used an IP in the 31.50.129.### (specifically 31.50.129.84), as well as 86.157.203.79 in an attempt to persuade the discussion by votestacking by socking with IPs (and even admitted it on that page.) Their current behavior that set off my WP:DUCK radar with the IPs is that the editor and the IP(s) share one goal right now: To move all and any video game series articles away from a title that ends with "...(series)" and to the ambiguous title without "...(series)" with additionally moving the article currently at the ambiguous title to a title that ends with "...(video game)"; however, several of Neverrainy's requested moves (as well as the IP's) do not clearly follow the WP:NCVGDAB guideline for naming articles for video games and their respective series article. For example, see this revision regarding BioShock and BioShock (series): (1), & Dino Crisis and Dino Crisis (series): (2). The technical move request for the "Dino Crisis" articles was fulfilled ... but then immediately afterwards, 31.50.129.48 started editing almost every article related to "Dino Crisis" (see 31.50.129.48's contributions that happened today; most of the pages have "Dino Crisis" somewhere in their titles.) Also, in regards to IP 86.157.203.79: This IP also requested a similar move request on WP:RMTR that ended up at Talk:Max Payne; this IP also vote stacked at Talk:TimeSplitters (series) (as mentioned earlier in this report.) The last 2 IPs in this report are stale, but since the last IP in the report is so similar to the currently active IP, there is probably no way this is a coincidence. Steel1943 (talk) 21:24, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, for the record, I notified both Neverrainy and the most recent IP since the IP has been performing edits since this investigation was opened, and the IP acknowledged the notice. Steel1943  (talk) 22:42, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * I can concur that these IP addresses are Neverrainy. Most of Neverrainy's edits occur while logged out. I'm familiar with his behaviour and have had to warn and revert edits from his past IP addresses for disruptive editing. I could provide many more IP addresses linked to Neverrainy within the IP range of those if necessary. --The1337gamer (talk) 22:01, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Have you noticed any other IPs that Neverrainy has used recently? Just asking since no clerks or administrators have touched this case yet, and in effect, the most recent IP I know about and reposted could potentially be deemed "stale" now. Steel1943  (talk) 17:31, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * His IP address changes frequently, like almost on a daily basis. So each address will likely become stale after a day or two. The last IP I've noticed him edit from is, which you've reported. Since then he seems to be editing while logged in judging by his contribution history. --The1337gamer (talk) 18:02, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Chiming in to support the1337gamer's statements. Neverrainy typically edits from 31.50.x, 86.156.x and 86.157.x (And similar ranges), only logging in when semiprot forces him to do so. Several of IPs have been blocked in the past 2+ years for disruption including mass reverting other editors who reverted one of his changes and a refusal to follow project consensus. has blocked several in the past. It is also a common behavior for the user to remove any talk sections or warnings opened on their IP without comment. IPs seem to rotate every 1-3 days. I would however tend to believe it's simply standard ISP rotation and not a deliberate act. -- ferret (talk) 03:01, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Example from moves:
 * Darksiders moved by Neverrainy (logged in for move permissions), which was contested, so IP filed technical move: Move, technical move request, resulting in Talk:Darksiders (series).
 * Max Paine, again moved by Neverrainy, but IP handles all further editing after contested: Move, Talk page with multiple move section filed by IP.
 * Shadow Warrior, moved by Neverrainy, then edited by the IP: Redirect/move, further edits (Note the history of this article and multiple reversions by other edits due to breaking page history).
 * Let me know if you need others, there were dozens of these through Oct-Nov. -- ferret (talk) 19:46, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * This report is so stale that I cannot recall off the top of my head. Can you chime in on this?  Steel1943  (talk) 19:50, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It's an edit conflict totally. Looks as though Ferret provided evidence prior to my edit being saved. Steel1943  (talk) 19:50, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * On :, he pretty much admitted to logged out editing here while trying to voterig a request move on TimeSplitters (series) --The1337gamer (talk) 19:53, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * See Talk:TimeSplitters (series), specifically these edits: Inquiry by The1337gamer and response by 86.174.56.154. Steel1943  (talk) 19:57, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 19 October 2016: makes 5 edits to Darksiders (series): . 3 minutes later Neverrainy moves Darksiders to Darksiders (video game): . 4 minutes later  makes technical request move for Darksiders (series) to Darksiders: . --The1337gamer (talk) 20:01, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 7 March 2016: makes edits to Forza related articles from 22:01-22:04. Neverrainy make edits to Forza related articles from 22:08-22:16, mostly page moves . 22:23-22:51, IP continues edits to Forza articles. --The1337gamer (talk) 20:17, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Can admins check the page histories of deleted articles? If so, check Dishonored (series) and Homefront (series). Both articles were created by Neverrainy and deleted at AfD after I nominated them. However I prior to the AfD, I believe I redirected both of them and was reverted on both the same IP editor (Neverrainy). Probably this one: since Neverrainy and IP both made edits to Dishonored within a 3 minute period: . By checking this IP edit history, you'll realise that Neverrainy was the IP hopper that was edit warring with multiple editors over GameRankings scores and Video game reviews templates last year.  --The1337gamer (talk) 20:29, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * you say that Neverrainy admitted on their talk page to the logged-out editing. Can you provide a diff of said admission? Also to others, I see claims of logged-out editing but the only diffs provided are of Neverrainy and no matter how "obvious" it may look, evidence is still required. Can you provide diffs establishing the the IP edits are made by the user behind the Neverrainy account? Note that Checkuser is useless here because the Privacy Policy prohibits CUs from publicly connecting IPs and account. ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  19:34, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Logged-out editing did happen and was mostly admitted to, the user was told not to do it again, and I've left them a detailed "final" warning about it. Let's hope the message has been received. Future logged-out editing in violation of policy should be met with blocks for violation of sockpuppetry policy. ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  20:13, 5 December 2016 (UTC)