Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nguyen0409/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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The most indicative evidence that these users are the same is that they are the only editors to edit Draft:List of celebrities influenced by Taylor Swift more than once, with Nguyen0409's last edit being at 03:05, 22 February 2021, and ADTN1210's first edit being at 04:48, 22 February 2021.

Nguyen0409 stopped editing from that account because they received talk page messages from several users warning them about their disruptive editing, specifically when adding positive material to Taylor Swift articles and removing positive material from articles on artists such as Beyonce and Kanye West, typically in sections related to their legacies (e.g. ). ADTN1210 has since continued with this disruptive behavior, including targeting artists' "legacy" sections (e.g. ).

For example, Nguyen0409 removed material from Homecoming (2019 film) that was cited to reliable sources with an edit summary stating "fan opinions do not become facts". The removed material was restored by another user. ADTN1210 then removed the same material again with a similar edit summary stating "argument made by fans are not considered facts". ADTN1210 also removed other editors' comments in a discussion about the material they removed with no edit summary. A similar re-removal from the second account happened yesterday. ADTN1210 also continued with disrupting Kanye West articles, removing an AfD template here.

Of course, there's nothing wrong if an editor just wants to have a clean start; however, "if an editor uses their new account to resume editing articles or topics in the same manner that resulted in a negative reputation in the first place (becoming involved in disputes, edit warring, or other forms of disruptive editing), the editor will probably be recognized (as a "sockpuppet") and connected to the old account. Changing accounts to avoid the consequences of past bad behaviors is usually seen as evading scrutiny and may lead to additional sanctions". These edits indicate that this editor is attempting to evade scrutiny, showing several signs of sockpuppetry including repeating the same disapproved activity, editing identical articles (and especially knowledge that an obscure article exists), chronology of edits, and similar writing/editing styles. Thank you. Bgkc4444 (talk) 10:08, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * - requesting confirmation and sleepers check. The SandDoctor  Talk 16:32, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:06, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The SandDoctor Talk 05:13, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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DDTN49's main areas of editing (adding positive material to Taylor Swift articles and removing positive material from articles related to musicians such as Beyonce and Kendrick Lamar, particularly in the impact/legacy sections), was previously the main area of editing of the sockmaster (Nguyen0409) and previous sockpuppet (ADTN1210). For example, in the sentence from the Kendrick Lamar article: "Lamar has been regarded as one of the most influential artists of his generation, as well as one of the greatest rappers and lyricists of all time", ADTN1210 removed the latter clause calling it a "stretch", while DDTN49 changed "rappers" to "artists" and called it a "stretch". ADTN1210 added material about Australian politicians to 1989 (Taylor Swift album), which was then reverted, and DDTN49 then re-added material on the topic. DDTN49's first edit was two weeks after ADTN1210 was blocked. DDTN49 also has an almost identical list of their favorite musicians on their user page as ADTN1210's user page had. Bgkc4444 (talk) 00:00, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Recurring disruptive edits at Taylor Swift-related articles. Most recently, at the article "1989 (Taylor Swift album)", this user added the same information that had been previously removed by a now-blocked sockpuppet. This user has a tendency to add fancruft to Taylor Swift-related articles, such as this or this. Given the bizarrely similar motives and vocabulary, I suspect that this user is creating another account for the same purpose. HĐ (talk) 14:16, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Bgkc4444. I don't know why did you accuse me of sockpuppeting the other two accounts when I have absolutely no relations to them. I edit every article that relates to pop culture because that is the topic I have the most knowledge about. I did not just only edit Taylor Swift articles. On Kendrick Lamar article, I edit it because it is a stretch and it's not what the sources indicate. The sources did not indicate that Lamar is one of the greatest "artists", instead, they said Lamar is one of the greatest "rappers" only. The piece of information about Australian politicians being inspired by Taylor Swift's album is only what I have found out recently. Also just because that account has a list of favorite musicians I cannot have the same favorite musicians as them? or I cannot have "almost same" favorite hobbies as those two others because that would be me faking them? Tell me more about this. This accusation makes no sense. DDTN49 (talk) 13:08, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I just saw this and I'm really surprised. I don't know why I was accused of doing this. I have no relation to the other two accounts. And I do not just edit Taylor Swift-related articles or make "disruptive edits". I came to Wikipedia to edit every article that relates to popular culture. If I am a sockpuppet to the other two accounts, I should have created this new account right after those accounts were blocked as sockpuppets. But I created this account on 10 May 2021, which means it is half a month after that account was blocked (I checked those two accounts to see when are they blocked), so you cannot accuse me as a sockpuppet. I don't know who the other two accounts are and I don't have any relations to them. Also, to HĐ, I did research on that Taylor Swift album and I just only found out about that piece of information and made that edit. And I also included reliable sources but you removed it with no reason. Thanks, DDTN49 (talk) 12:53, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

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 * merged duplicate cases. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:21, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ to and.
 * Also found and ✅:
 * Bagging and tagging both accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:00, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Bagging and tagging both accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:00, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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created their account on May 19, 2021, the exact same day when the sock DDTN49 was blocked. What's even more striking is that Special:Diff/1023923603 is their very first edit, which indicates that they are clearly not a new user. They also have similar writing styles as their previous socks, often blue-linking policies in edit-summaries, using double quotations to highlight their "point", and a tendency to approach other editors immediately after their edits have been reverted in a similar manner: compare Special:Diff/1007532802 and Special:Diff/1033737650. They have also made similar edit suggestion requests on talk page of Taylor Swift and Beyonce articles: Special:Diff/1023335727 and Special:Diff/1033571234. This account is also being used to edit Taylor Swift article, which was previously edited by the socks. Requesting CU for confirmation. Ashley yoursmile!  02:14, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

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 * ❌, closing. Mz7 (talk) 05:24, 27 July 2021 (UTC)