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Suspected sockpuppets



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The four accounts - LaCucaracha91, Fernando447, Elgatoconbotas1 and Cerebro987 - are all obviously the same user, all created to establish an appearance of multi-user support for contentious POV edits. First, the account names all follow the same pattern; "silly" Spanish language name, followed by a number. And they were all created within a short period of time. TheUnbelievable20 is a little different in that it's not a Spanish silly name. However, all five accounts are making very similar edits to the same set of articles concerning the status of Royal Prussia and the Kingdom of Poland. The POV which is being pushed and which appears from time to time is that Royal Prussia was not part of Poland but a separate country because it enjoyed some autonomy - there's probably older accounts involved here. Elgatoconbotas1 changing "subdivision" (which it was) to "country". LaCucaracha1 changing "Kingdom of Poland" to "Crown of Poland" (implication is that it wasn't part of Poland, just administered by the Polish king). Fernando claiming Royal Prussia wasn't part of Poland (it was, but because it was a federal state it enjoyed autonomy). Cerebro987 claiming Royal Prussia wasn't part of Poland, just in a "personal union" with the King, and that it had its own "citizenship" (anachronistic and false). Cerebro987 claiming that German was the "administrative language" of Royal Prussia (there was no administrative language).

Compare also to these old edits from an IP. If that is indeed the same person, then these are all socks of indef banned user Kaiser Von Europa. I'm not filing it under Kaiser because that account is probably stale, and I'm not 100% sure of that particular connection (Kaiser is usually a lot more ... aggressive than these four accounts).

Same kind of thing on the article Second Peace of Thorn (1466). Elcatoconbotas1:. LaCucaracha1 soon after:. Then LaCucarach1 edit wars to keep the map inserted by Elcatoconbotas1:, using the same obscure 1772 (!) source as Fernando447 (!). That right there is more than just a smoking gun. That's a smoking battery of guns.

Edits concerning Copernicus also show it's the same person. Fernando447. Compare with LaCucracha1's edits on other wikis:

Even their user pages look similar  and their edit summaries look the same   etc.

Also, LaCucaracha1's first edit used the term "wikilink" which is not something a brand new user would write. Also, they asked for auto-confirmed status in, like their 8th edit which is not something a new user would know how to do.

Finally, LaCucaracha1 claims on their user page to be from Poland and to speak Polish... yet pushes an irredentist German POV and doesn't seem to actually understand Polish (if the said Polish has a couple minor misspellings, which are just enough to throw off Google translate). So he's making that up as cover.

Those four accounts (+ maybe Unbelievable20) are most obviously the same person. I do suspect there's more to it than especially since these accounts were created just recently, and given their similarity to an indef banned user from years ago (who by some indications, has become active again recently).  Volunteer Marek  00:25, 7 January 2020 (UTC)   Volunteer Marek   00:25, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * . Please move to Niederrheiner81.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Case moved from LaCucaracha91 to Niederrheiner81. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:34, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * . Please move to Niederrheiner81.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Case moved from LaCucaracha91 to Niederrheiner81. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:34, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * . Please move to Niederrheiner81.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Case moved from LaCucaracha91 to Niederrheiner81. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:34, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * . Please move to Niederrheiner81.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Case moved from LaCucaracha91 to Niederrheiner81. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:34, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * . Please move to Niederrheiner81.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Case moved from LaCucaracha91 to Niederrheiner81. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:34, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * . Please move to Niederrheiner81.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Case moved from LaCucaracha91 to Niederrheiner81. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:34, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * . Please move to Niederrheiner81.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Case moved from LaCucaracha91 to Niederrheiner81. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:34, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * . Please move to Niederrheiner81.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Case moved from LaCucaracha91 to Niederrheiner81. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:34, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * . Please move to Niederrheiner81.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Case moved from LaCucaracha91 to Niederrheiner81. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:34, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * . Please move to Niederrheiner81.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Case moved from LaCucaracha91 to Niederrheiner81. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:34, 7 January 2020 (UTC)