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Fasterenergie is the sockpuppet of the blocked account Noname_JR because, the same articles are changed. Fayçal.09 (talk) 21:11, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * moved SPI page to oldest and blocked account. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 23:21, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * .&#32;In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this.  Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:17, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * He acts in the articles which speak of the Kabyle culture, the history of Algeria and national football and makes the same modifications. These two accounts are blocked in the french wikipedia . --Fayçal.09 (talk) 10:30, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Based in part on CheckUser evidence from frwiki, these appear to be the same person. . Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:35, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

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As well as editing the same articles as the sockmaster and having an issue with the Arabic names (just like the master), AchilleTalonnade is a confirmed sock of "Noname JR" (see confirmation on fr.wp). M.Bitton (talk) 16:18, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Can you please have a look at this case? I believe it's fairly straight forward and would prevent further disruption. Thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 22:28, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * M.Bitton - ✅.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:34, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 22:34, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * ✅. Bagging and tagging sock account. This SPI can be closed.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:33, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

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They are targeting the same articles with the exact same edits.

Couscous

AchilleTalonnade (previous sock) - Jesaispas123445

Krim Belkacem

AchilleTalonnade (previous sock) - Jesaispas123445. M.Bitton (talk) 14:19, 28 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm adding two other articles which might help tip the balance:


 * JS Kabylie (a favourite of theirs): "AchilleTalonnade" - "Jesaispas123445". Notice how both use Correction in their edit summaries.
 * Stade Abdelkader Khalef both "Jesaispas123445" and "Fasterenergie" tried to change the name.
 * They are also edit warring (see report) just like their other socks. M.Bitton (talk) 17:25, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * , leaning .  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   21:40, 1 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Closing as the account has already been blocked. I've added a sock tag. Mz7 (talk) 05:22, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

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These IPs (all from the same location) are targetting the same articles as the sockmaster with the same POV edits, consisting mainly of either adding WP:OR and irrelevant sources or deleting content (compare these two edits). They are also IP hopping to edit war on the Kabyle people article. M.Bitton (talk) 12:14, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * After the Kabyle people article was protected, "Spectatorfrom" was registered today to "explain their edit" to the admin. M.Bitton (talk) 23:01, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

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Hi, I'm here to add a tifinagh   script to a Berber people, i did nothing wrong. Like this. Spectatorfrom (talk) 10:16, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

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 * Named account already indeffed for evasion, now also . IPs are all on wide, populated ranges – it's going to be hard to get a rangeblock in place here. Closing. --Blablubbs&#124;talk 20:20, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

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Attilart has already been confirmed as a sock of Noname JR on fr.wp (please see CU result here). Thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 21:57, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

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 * No additional accounts visible, per frwiki conclusion. ST47 (talk) 04:52, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

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diff showing "Pikachu5D" admitting to the fact that 2A04:CEC0:1085:4D76:F8DF:F977:2E08:EE is their IP.

The IP is from the same location and belongs to the same ISP as the IPs reported on April.

Their use of the term "Correction", just like they did previously (see April's SPI).

Wanting to change "Beni" to "Ait", just like their previous sock (Attilart). They also did the same thing using the above IP.


 * I hope you don't mind me pinging you, but since you blocked them for edit warring and they left a comment on your talk page, I thought you might be interested in this SPI. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 16:56, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * ✅ to the last sock in the archive. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:36, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * - per CU, please block the sock indefinitely. Blablubbs (talk) 22:43, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * . Close. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 08:33, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * . Blablubbs (talk) 08:36, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

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Krupsofa has been confirmed as a sockpuppet of Noname JR on fr.wp (please see SPI). M.Bitton (talk) 22:01, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * This case should get wrapped up right about now. What's the point of keeping this case open if the sockpuppet account is locked now? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:32, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

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I was reviewing a report at WP:ANEW filed against Krupsofa, noticed the block at fr.wiki, and then came here. I've blocked the user as obvious without tags. I'll let a clerk handle the report above where a CU was requested, the tagging, the global lock requests, etc.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:32, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Tagged. Account is locked and blocked already, so leaving open is moot. The SandDoctor  Talk 19:18, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

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"E^ix=cosx+isinx" removed the usual content from the Issad Rebrab article and left the same edit summary that Fasterenergie (a blocked sock) left previously. Compare theirs to Fasterenergie's (both mention Jeff Bezos). M.Bitton (talk) 14:51, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, tagged, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 16:24, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * , archiving. Spicy (talk) 21:46, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

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Yet another sockpuppet of Noname JR has been identified on the French Wikipedia project.

In his argument, he clearly highlighted the articles that this IP has just modified (Lounès Matoub: ) and this IP relates to the same articles as Noname JR more generally (Kabyle and Algerian articles). In addition, this range of IP addresses seem to be those used by the sockpuppet of Noname JR (see ). Thanks in advance Askelaadden (talk) 22:01, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello, Thanks for your answers and your actions. Concerning the user, it seems that he is yet another sockpuppet of NonameJR in view of his contributions on the French wikipedia. He has also been banned from the French wikipedia . Best, --Askelaadden (talk) 09:58, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

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I agree. please correct the link to the French wiki to make it easier for the CUs. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 22:08, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I think a few well crafted page protections are probably a logical step at this point. I've highlighted the latest one at RFPP, but there's surely a few more which could use the same treatment. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs)  19:32, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi! Just an additional clarification: after consulting the sysops on fr.wp, this user is now permanently banned from the project in French. Best regards. --d-n-f (talk) 08:31, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

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'''This case is being reviewed by Tamzin as part of her training as a clerk. Please allow her to process the entire case without interference. You may pose any questions or concerns either on her talk page or on this page.'''
 * A variety of admin actions have been taken since this was filed, including an indef of Everysoaks+4 by Widr and a pblock of 2a04:cec0:1000::/39 by User:JBW. So most of this is moot. However, Logicalclassic is only tempblocked. They definitely have the pro-Kabyle POV of Noname JR, but as we've learned in the past with this SPI, so do a number of people. Based on the frwiki diff, though—which, for context for non-French-speakers, shows awareness of Noname's edits on enwiki without explicitly claiming to be the same person—I do see reason to suspect they're not just a compatriot. Please compare Logicalclassic to Everysoaks+4 and past accounts. (I count two non-stale in the archive.)  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 03:59, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 15:12, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Compared to Krupsofa and E^ix=cosx+isinx from the archive, Logicalclassic and Everysoaks+4 are ✅. Extra points to E^ix=cosx+isinx for the best username I've seen in a while.  On the sleeper front, I found:
 * which I'll call ✅ -- RoySmith (talk) 15:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * PS, of course, -- RoySmith (talk) 15:51, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * which I'll call ✅ -- RoySmith (talk) 15:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * PS, of course, -- RoySmith (talk) 15:51, 16 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Heh, that sock name led to my first commit to SPIhelper. Thanks for the blocks and tags. As to those two, they're both interested in North Africa, but absent a confirmed I don't see enough evidence to call this socking. Closing without action on those two, but we should all keep an eye on them. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 18:30, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, . --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 20:47, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merci bien for bringing that to my attention. I should have remembered to check frwiki. : Please block Altaghats as a proven sock based on the CU findings here and the frwiki RCU's CU/behavioral findings. I still see no grounds for a block of QuechuaKalenji, but if they return to editing I'm guessing they'll prove themself a Noname JR sock in short order. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 04:07, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * clpo13(talk) 04:32, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Do not follow. This made me realize I hadn't checked whether they're 3X-blocked here on enwiki. Looks like they are, as of May. (The applicability of sister-wiki CU results to 3X isn't 100% clear, but it's a result that was enforced with a checkuserblock-account by an enwiki CU, so by my reading of the footnote at WP:3X, that counts.) . --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 17:11, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

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The same modus operandi as the sock master, especially the obsession with the removal Arabic names from Kabyle subjects (including the propensity to edit war over it). See the master's typical edit for comparison. M.Bitton (talk) 00:28, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * Blocked today March 24 on the french wikipedia, no confirmation of CU but this is without any doubt a comaback of Noname JR ; global lock resquest at meta. Regards. --d-n-f (talk) 11:32, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Post-archival comment ^ --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 11:38, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * Shares the same historical range as them, all I can tell you. If a clerk/admin decides they're the same person, should also be blocked. TonyBallioni (talk) 06:57, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know that I would block Silky on their behavior alone. In combination with Tony's CU finding, and the fact that Silksyummy and Venuskodak were created within a couple of minutes of each other, however, the picture is more clear.  Blocked both as suspected. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:10, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

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New account, strong interest in Arabic and Kabyle stuff (ex. unsourced category for that). Activity on the same page as usual socks (Kabylia)... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 14:25, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * ❌ to anything in the archive that isn't stale. I do see some evidence that they might be using other accounts, but nothing which is obvious WP:BADSOCK, and it might just be friends or classmates working on articles together; it doesn't look like Noname JR.  Girth Summit  (blether)  12:42, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

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1) The IP is using the same ISP and is from the same geolocation as the other IPs that have been reported previously. 2) Their edit was followed by "Motecrok"'s edit in an article that is closely associated with the master's favourite subjects (the Kabyles and Kabylie). 3) Motecrok is now edit warring over the name, just like the previous socks. M.Bitton (talk) 15:06, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

As expected, the IP is now targetting the articles that were previously edited by Attilart (another globally locked sock of "Noname JR"). M.Bitton (talk) 16:49, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Another IP (same range as above) has targetted the article Boulifa again, while "Motecrok" removed the Arabic name (the sock master's signature edit) from the French version of Si Mohand (the article that was edited yesterday by the IP). Pinging (an admin on fr.wp who is familiar with the modus operandi of the sock master). M.Bitton (talk) 14:30, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Motecrok is now blocked on fr.wp (thanks to "Do not follow" for detecting another SP, "Wentmaris", that I have added to the list). M.Bitton (talk) 20:39, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

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 * Both accounts have been locked based on . as suspected. No IP blocks viable at this moment.  For the record, just to clarify something you said in the RCU, there was no check run on enwiki (that I know of) in this filing.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 02:56, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * That's right, I read too fast, I will be more attentive next time. Thank you. --d-n-f (talk) 06:39, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

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This new editor is edit warring over what was added by 2A04:CEC0:104D:A7E1:0:45:A3F1:C01 (an obvious sock of Noname JR, whose IPs have been reported and blocked on numerous occasions). The fact that they are editing the same articles that have been targetted by the sockmaster in the past (as Silksyummy and Fasterenergie among others) is also too much of a coincidence to be coincidence. M.Bitton (talk) 17:33, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

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 * Based on what I can cobble together from the CU logs, and the behavioural overlap, I've blocked and tagged as suspected. Tackclean is ✅ to have also created, which I've also blocked.-- Ponyo bons mots 17:55, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Just beat me with that Dockpawl find. . DatGuyTalkContribs 17:58, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

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Another "new editor" who jumped straight to Noname JR's favourite subject (2 days after the protection of the article expired) to push the same POV. Compare this edit of theirs, with the last known sock's edit. M.Bitton (talk) 17:48, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

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 * . --Blablubbs (talk) 18:05, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ to the last batch, and quite to the master., , closing.  --Blablubbs (talk) 18:11, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Although I can't really put my finger on it, there is definitely something very familiar with the way this "new editor" is approaching the the sock master's favourite subject (the Kabyles). The fact that they keep pretending not to understand what they did (they made a false claim) is also something the SM would do. M.Bitton (talk) 18:09, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * This edit of theirs confirms my suspicion, as the main article (Lalla Fatma N'Soumer) has been targetted before by the sock master (using one their usual IPs). Their response (below, after following me) is exactly what I would expect the sock master to say. M.Bitton (talk) 18:24, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

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I have explained the duplicate, through the link you brought: same sources (which no mentions about them) for two different peoples at different period. Where is the forum ? Gavecuriut (talk) 18:21, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * | lalla is a berber title, we don't falsify the history, i need forum link please.Gavecuriut (talk) 18:37, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * are you a sockpuppet of "Noname JR"? A simple yes or no will do. Thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 18:43, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * No, i don't know who it is, in my opinion, we should remove the family duplicate Ali Khodja/Baba Ali Chaouch, can i have the forum link to discuss about it please.Gavecuriut (talk) 18:57, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I have founded "the forum"Gavecuriut (talk) 19:17, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi! A similar checkuser request has been made at fr.wp. Best regards. --d-n-f (talk) 20:51, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * they have now been confirmed. Many thanks to and  for taking care of this. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 13:47, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * - for comparison to previous accounts. Besides the similar subject matter interest and POV, the username pattern matches with previous socks (,, , - these names appear to be taken from the two-word captchas displayed on the account creation page).  Thanks, Spicy (talk) 01:05, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅, blocked & tagged. Closing. firefly  ( t · c ) 12:15, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

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A brand new editor targeting the favourite articles of the sock master. After so many socks, they are learning to adapt their edits to evade being recognized, though the modus operandi is still the same. M.Bitton (talk) 01:59, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims. Hi, what is wrong with you, i have explained why the independentist Ferhat Mehenni should have (citizenship) of his movement. And i have showed Black Spring is months of protest with a climax on 14th June 2001. Ferhat's movement was created 5th June 2001 (website of the mouvement), so it's legal to change his nationality and adding his movement as contributor of Black Spring. All is accessible on User talk:M.Bitton, Black Spring section.Volotovolo (talk) 10:48, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * I'd say technically very to, and the editing interests leave no room for doubt. Blocked, requesting lock.   Girth Summit  (blether)  11:22, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

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Pro forma. --Blablubbs (talk) 21:18, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

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 * ., , closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 21:19, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

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The same modus operandi as the sock master (targetting the usual articles such as Kabyle people and Colonel Amirouche, adding WP:OR and misrepresenting the sources to push a POV regarding the French language). M.Bitton (talk) 14:01, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * Very technically, editing leaves no room for doubt. Blocked, lock requested, closing.   Girth Summit  (blether)  11:07, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

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They have been confirmed on fr.wp (see diff). Thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 10:54, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * They can't be confirmed via the data available on enwiki, but it's enough to give a result (or perhaps ✅ would be a better descriptor). Don't see any other active accounts. Blocking, requesting lock, closing.   Girth Summit  (blether)  12:11, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

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Both editors have been confirmed as sockpuppets of Noname JR on the French Wikipedia (please see CU result). M.Bitton (talk) 18:50, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * Already globally locked. Tagged. Closing. MarioGom (talk) 18:02, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

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this is a confirmed sock of Noname JR (please see the result of the SPI on fr.wp). M.Bitton (talk) 12:45, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * blocked, tagged, requesting lock, closing 0x Deadbeef →∞ (talk to me) 08:53, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Sleeper sweep turns up . Will file lock request.
 * Courcelles (talk) 20:08, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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this is a confirmed sock of Noname JR (please see the result of the SPI on fr.wp). M.Bitton (talk) 12:45, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * blocked, tagged, requesting lock, closing 0x Deadbeef →∞ (talk to me) 08:53, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Sleeper sweep turns up . Will file lock request.
 * Courcelles (talk) 20:08, 28 February 2024 (UTC)