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Houston,illinois was already blocked for edits they said were due to a compromised accounts. These accounts are all editing the same articles and drafts in a disruptive manner, e.g. User:TicTawCentral/sandbox/List of Barraclough Series Episodes and Draft:The Barraclough Brothers. The accounts are asking for speedy deletion of drafts created by other accounts, e.g. and. The IP address is stable since October and had multiple warnings. Fences &amp;  Windows  01:30, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Added Oatsandcream and Waussus, both of which which Houston,illinois confessed to along with TicTawCentral on their talk page when asked by NinjaRobotPirate. Oatsandcream is the oldest account, created 8 December 2020. Both Brothers of Bear and WaussusBeaver were created after that post, in which Houston,illinois said they 'now see that sockpuppetry in wrong'. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 08:21, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * Comment: Lots of overlapping edits at Skinwalker Ranch and Draft:The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. David notMD (talk) 10:37, 14 February 2021 (UTC)


 * , should the investigation be moved to Oatsandcream, since that's the oldest account? BlackcurrantTea (talk) 21:41, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , technically, yes. That account made only one edit, which is now deleted, and personally I don't feel that the general principal of filing sockpuppet cases under the earliest created account is totally sacred, and I don't see a lot of point in applying it in this case. However, I'm alerting a clerk, who can decide whether to move the case. JBW (talk) 23:01, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I see. I've seen it done, and wasn't sure if it was a sort of rule, or simply the preference of the person who closed the case. Thanks. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 23:49, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

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As has said, Houston,illinois has admitted that TicTawCentral, Waussus, and Oatsandcream are sockpuppets. The others are total WP:DUCKs. They have also been doing highly unconstructive editing, making their presence highly unhelpful, quite apart from the sockpuppetry. I shall block and tag them all. JBW (talk) 21:35, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , WaussusBeaver didn't get tagged. Was that intentional? -- RoySmith (talk) 20:39, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * No, but I've done it now, and also changed the sockmaster in the tags to Oatsandcream. Thanks for alerting me to this. JBW (talk) 23:15, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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One of the Oatsandcream sockpuppets was User:TicTawCentral. Jambalaya Hut has created Draft:Tic Taw (Video Franchise). Jambalaya Hut has also been editing Draft:The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch which was created by Oatsandcream sock User:Houston,illinois. Jambalaya Hut has also been editing B Positive eg which was also edited by User:WaussusBeaver eg. Laplorfill (talk) 14:04, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * - seems highly plausible given the overlap on a somewhat obscure draft and the username. While the archive is potentially stale, there should be something in the CU log for, and a sleeper check makes sense given the large number of socks last time. --Blablubbs&#124;talk 16:52, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * . They're in the same geolocation and within the same range as a blocked sock where data was retrievable.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   20:50, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * behaviorally, closing. KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 23:53, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Carrying on from where past sockpuppets left off, working on Draft:The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch and writing about the Barraclough Brothers (some kids who upload home videos to archive.org). Lord Belbury (talk) 15:27, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * Based on comparing historical CU data with this account, I consider the link to be to previous socks. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 16:07, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 16:07, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Same behaviour as previous sock, making edits to silent movie, blackface, Marx Brothers and Beatles articles (some possibly useful, some certainly - from their talk page - questionable or straight hoaxes) , also introducing a lot of copyvio images, and writing drafts about the same non-notable childrens' YouTube videos (Draft:Tic Taw Videos). Lord Belbury (talk) 07:13, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, tagged, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 13:16, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Carrying straight on from where past socks were blocked, restoring the previous sock's deleted content to Lion Solser, restoring the previous sock's deleted Have You Heard of Schellevis-Mie? article, working on Draft:The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch, uploading another copyvio image of the Marx Brothers. Lord Belbury (talk) 08:13, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

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User has now admitted socking. --Lord Belbury (talk) 13:26, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, tagged, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 16:15, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Similar focus to past sockpuppet accounts: lost silent films, 2020 TV series The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch, Marx Brothers, adding misidentified historical photos to articles and uploading copyrighted image and audio content to Commons. Lord Belbury (talk) 14:56, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Adding to this SPI. That user created the Draft:Ducks (1920 film) which DuckyAgain23 moved to mainspace a week later and expanded with images, and Draft:Edmonton Yoseikan Karate Club which Chito moved to mainspace after it was declined twice, and DuckyAgain23 then worked on. --Lord Belbury (talk) 15:21, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

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 * - seems pretty likely, endorsing for comparison to previous accounts and a sleeper check as they seem to be using multiple accounts concurrently and there has not been a check in this case in a while. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 14:41, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * . --Blablubbs (talk) 14:44, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * DuckyAgain23
 * Chito Kaii
 * (from the archive)
 * This group is also very to  from the archives per cuwiki. . There is also one additional account that I want to get a second opinion on. Will report back once I know more.  --Blablubbs (talk) 15:11, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Per a conversation I had with an elder CU, is also  enough to block, so I've done that. Closing.  --Blablubbs (talk) 15:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This group is also very to  from the archives per cuwiki. . There is also one additional account that I want to get a second opinion on. Will report back once I know more.  --Blablubbs (talk) 15:11, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Per a conversation I had with an elder CU, is also  enough to block, so I've done that. Closing.  --Blablubbs (talk) 15:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Recreated Draft:Have You Heard of Schellevis-Mie?, admitting to its prior creation by an admitted sock. See below. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:52, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * The following are, and confirmed to each other:
 * - appears stale to the script but is not
 * Both blocked, and tagged as proven based on a combination of technical and behavioural evidence. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:52, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Both blocked, and tagged as proven based on a combination of technical and behavioural evidence. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:52, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Has the same obscure interests as past sockpuppets, including the unreleased 26th Bond film (per Palooka2), silent movie actors and the Skinwalker Ranch TV show. On Commons, the user directly restored the same colorised version of File:Kicking Horse Pass.gif that User:Dr. Nono YesMaybe tried to upload there in March. Belbury (talk) 09:17, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, tagged, closing. Because of the repeated abusive behavior at Commons, we should consider requesting global locks in this case. Bbb23 (talk) 13:28, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Requested. Courcelles (talk) 19:14, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Earlier sock account User:Dr. Nono YesMaybe created a Commons category for Lon Chaney's "Man in the Beaver Hat" character in October 2022, and made an edit to an image of Kicking Horse Pass in the Canadian Rockies in British Columbia.

SpookLoud's only edits have been to create a Wikipedia page for Lon Chaney's "Man in the Beaver Hat" character, and to start a draft about a hotel in the Canadian Rockies in British Columbia, some fifty miles west of Kicking Horse Pass. Belbury (talk) 11:46, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

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 * ✅ to a globally locked sock. Blocking/tagging/requesting lock. Courcelles (talk) 13:50, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Repeating old Oatsandcream targets, including the same questionable high-res photo of Humor Risk previously overwritten by Sir Robert Perpaper at File:Humor Risk Marx Brothers.jpg, and another copyvio photo of Charles III, as previously edit request by Nohun. The username is also a reference to mine, I've reported many of their past sock accounts. Belbury (talk) 07:33, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

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 * ✅ to . Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 08:29, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 08:30, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Same interest in the Marx Brothers, copyright violations and the Curse of Oak Island as past socks such as. This edit added a link to a fake/copyvio "reconstruction" of the Marx Brothers Humor Risk that sock uploaded to Commons a few weeks ago at File:Humor Risk Reconstruction (Marx Brothers).webm. Belbury (talk) 19:02, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

IP has since submitted User:Nobody You Or We Know's Draft:Groucho the Cigar Man, an article in the Oatsandcream style about how a child's modern drawing at File:Groucho the Cigar Man.jpg is some kind of "classical, vintage" lost work. --Belbury (talk) 08:08, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

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 * How tiresome. Account indeffed and lock requested, month off for the IP's /64.  Girth Summit  (blether)  17:19, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Regular Oatsandcream targets in their first handful of edits: the Marx Brothers' Humor Risk, silent horror film London After Midnight and the Beatles. Also uploading audio/photo copyvios and questionable "found" lost film footage to Commons, again. Belbury (talk) 17:56, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, tagged, global lock requested, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 14:21, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Orastor added the same Justin Trudeau copyvio image to the blackface article as past sock Palooka2, that image being uploaded to Commons a few minutes earlier by a username referencing mine (presumably because I've reported their socking before). Other edits are in similar areas to past block evasion. Belbury (talk) 08:58, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

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All 3 are CU confirmed as identical. User:King Belbury also showed up as CU confirmed to them but I'm puzzled as to why as that's an old account but has a date range of February 3, 2024 - February 3, 2024. In any case King Belbury was CU confirmed as a sock of the named puppetmaster. The three new ones are blocked but as I'm not sure about the tag given the King Belbury situation I'm not tagging. Doug Weller talk 11:29, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm not puzzled, I will issue tags, email you why, and close the case. Courcelles (talk) 16:08, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
IP editing all the same articles as the last sock Orastor, and restoring Orastor's content to The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch today. The IP also previously thanked someone on a talk page for answering a question that Orastor had asked (Orastor arriving to also thank them a minute later). Belbury (talk) 15:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

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I have blocked the IP for two weeks in response to a page protection request. Daniel Case (talk) 20:23, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Usual bad edits: writing about lost films from primary sources, adding unsourced Skinwalker Ranch episode details ( continuing the same edit summary context of WP:CRYSTALBALL as sock IP User:174.3.207.112), writing up vague rumours about Groucho Marx as if they were factually true. Belbury (talk) 09:22, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * ✅, blocked and tagged. Courcelles (talk) 15:23, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Moron24 uploaded the copyright violation File:Rolling Acres Mall archivalFootage.webm to Commons and it was immediately added to a Wikipedia article by 174.3.207.112, an IP who was temporarily blocked as an Oatsandcream sock in February. Same thing a few hours later with a "lost film" snippet on Poor Jake's Demise. Other edit subjects overlap with previous socks (Skinwalker Ranch, Rolling Stones).

MartManMirth edited the Bonnie Doon Shopping Centre article a few hours after the same IP had, and Moron24 joined a discussion at Talk:Rachel_Notley to say what they think MartManMirth meant in an edit request. Belbury (talk) 16:45, 26 June 2024 (UTC)


 * If I stop all edits, can you leave my account alone? I don't want to associate with sockpuppetry at all, it is very bad. Moron24 (talk) 06:38, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, tagged, and requested global locks for the named accounts. Blocked the IP for 6 months (last time was 3). Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 12:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Script failed to block IP. Repeating. Bbb23 (talk) 12:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)