Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Oppa gangnam psy/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
Note that there is currently a rapidly expanding amount of connected threads at WP:ANI. From what I can tell, the brief background is that there was a dispute between two editors that escalated to ANI during a RfC, that thread involved a temporary block to Oppa. Before the close of that thread Oppa started a new thread accusing the editor who started the RfC and other ANI thread of being a sockmaster based on suspicious !votes in that RfC. I am very certain that the users listed in my report as the sockpuppets are related to each other based on behavioral evidence. Through looking into it, I believe that Oppa is the sockmaster. There is very little evidence to go off that I'm currently aware of without a CU and so I'm reluctant to share the information that led to this conclusion out of fear of helping disguise future socking. I'm willing to discuss this information with any clerk, CU, etc. privately or post it here if asked by a clerk or CU. P HANTOM T ECH (talk) 06:17, 30 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I've been looking for more evidence to support the connection to a specific sockmaster and haven't been able to find anything new. To keep from overcomplicating things it may be best to CU the sockpuppets since there seems to be a very obvious connection between them, then go from there if they aren't connected to a sockmaster by CU. P HANTOM T ECH (talk) 07:03, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @EdJohnston To clarify, is your conclusion only that User:Oppa gangnam psy is unrelated by CU to User:Vulpelibrorum or does it also extend to both users being unrelated to both IPs? P HANTOM T ECH (talk) 21:35, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * I'm not sold on Oppa being the sockmaster. In my view, OGP's writing style and general policy knowledge seems too different from the socks' for this to be a joe-job. My own feeling, based on the IP geolocation, is that TheCurrencyGuy is involved in some kind of meatpuppetry. — {Canuck  lehead}  07:22, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Erm, if it's meatpuppetry (which it does appear to be), then of course the writing style wouldn't match with the master account - whether that be OGP or TCG - because they'd be different people, so I'm not entirely sure how you can claim that. My suspicion is that this SPI isn't really going anywhere unless the non-IP account checks out against one or the other. Black Kite (talk) 14:01, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * My writing style comment specifically addressed sockpuppetry, not a meatpuppetry. The reason I didn't think Oppa was involved in meatpuppetry either is because he was a WP:CIR case at the best of times, and I find it a bit of a stretch to assume he'd be able to find reasonably competent-looking people who would really care to joe-job TheCurrencyGuy on his behalf. On top of that, TheCurrencyGuy didn't seem to raise an eyebrow at the sudden barrage of support and only defended them from Oppa. Considering how many people here thought it was a joe-job by Oppa, I'd think that the person being joe-jobbed would also question whether this sudden wave of votes and immediate "disqualification" in a dying RM was an act of sabotage, but he didn't. —  {Canuck  lehead}  23:22, 30 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Noting that Oppa gangnam psy has been blocked for one week for making further personal attacks. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 10:49, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppa gangnam psy writing style is rather different from the suspected socks and I think the suspected socks oppose OGP's position so this SPI seems to me to fall on a behavioural investigation. I note that one IP geolocates to the U.S. and the other to the U.K. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 10:51, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The impression I was getting, was that they were sock or meat puppets of TCG, rather than OGP. Having said that. The whole big dispute between the two main accounts over the last few hours, makes anything possible. GoodDay (talk) 12:54, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I've written my thoughts out on my own talk page, if anyone wants to have a look there then they're more than welcome. X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 22:01, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Battleofthebands2004, a user with no contribution history, just dropped a message on my talk page out of the blue. I suspect it is a sock of OGP.TheCurrencyGuy (talk) 23:56, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * A checkuser will not publicly connect IP addresses to a named account. EdJohnston's comment relates solely to Oppa gangnam psy and Vulpelibrorum. They have made no comment regarding the IPs. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:44, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Given how blatantly Oppa has antagonized TCG, I think it's reasonable to check Vulpeliborum against Oppa as a potential joe job. . If that comes back negative, I don't have a strong opinion as to whether a check of Vulpeliborum against would be warranted.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 18:32, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Oppa gangnam psy is ❌ to User:Vulpelibrorum. I'll wait to see if a clerk will endorse a check on The Currency Guy before going any further in that direction. I'm unclear on how a check of Oppa would expose a 'potential joe job' — unless you mean that a confirmation would rule out a job job. Meanwhile, another admin has indef blocked Oppa gangnam psy for personal attacks. I haven't read all the ANIs so may not have all the background. No objection if another CU wants to study this further. EdJohnston (talk) 20:33, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * To be clear, I meant that Oppa might be joe-jobbing TCG, not vice versa. As to a check on TCG, I think I'll leave that to another clerk or CU. FWIW, just as a regular administrative matter, I concur in the indef. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 20:41, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * That account was trolling on a number of talkpages. I've indeffed for disruptive editing. The account should probably be checked to see if we can tie it to some LTA or another, but I don't see a strong reason to think it's OGP; a lot of LTAs target people who are at AN/I. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 00:18, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The TCG matter is being discussed at Sockpuppet investigations/TheCurrencyGuy, and the Battleofthebands matter was resolved at Sockpuppet investigations/Highschoolprodigy, so, closing. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 05:48, 2 July 2022 (UTC)