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Appears to be connected to User:JoeM through moves of their user and user talk pages. JoeM is blocked as a sockpuppet of Paektu and Common Sense just edited a page, so I want to know whether this is a permanently blocked/banned user. Largoplazo (talk) 23:51, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * made an elaborate edit to Manifesto of the 343, with the inscrutable edit summary "Historical facts", that largely consisted of deleting a particular theme that they apparently don't like. I disagree with that removal but, before doing anything about it (and I still haven't done anything about it), I went to check that user's background to see whether they're a new or old user, whether there's anything about their history indicating where they may be coming from (e.g., a long history of conscientious editing, a brief run of I-don't-like-it editing, etc.). I immediately saw that this user was renamed on at 20:47 on 30 April 2015, and their user and user talk page were moved accordingly, with the original user and user talk pages, which would, right after the move, have redirected to the new locations, deleted.
 * So I went to and found that that page had been redirected to well, this is interesting, the chronology isn't what I had expected. That redirection occurred in 2004. Though I don't understand how  was able to be moved to  in 2015 when the latter already existed, and without implicitly deleting it and wiping out it's earlier history. Anyway, both before and after the move of  to, the content of the latter was nothing but a redirect to . So I assume they're tied together.
 * Now, is on a permanent block. An unblock request was rejected, apparently for severe ban violations. And I also see that  is a confirmed sockpuppet of  (see Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Paektu), permanently blocked for POV-pushing and abuse of multiple accounts.
 * Given all of this, is a sockpuppet of  and  and, if so, doesn't that mean that  should be blocked and that I should revert their edit on account of having been made by a banned and permanently blocked user? Largoplazo (talk) 17:55, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Here's how things happened - There were three accounts on 3 projects (enwiki, frwiki and commonswiki) with username Common Sense before SUL finalisation. After SUL enwiki one was renamed to Common Sense~enwiki and commonswiki was renamed to Common Sense~commonswiki, and frwiki one account remains the same and got Common Sense username on all Wikimedia projects.


 * As before SUL enwiki one was redirected to the sock account 1, and which is now Common Sense~enwiki and is the account connecting with JoeM. So the Common Sense is a different user (originally registered as Common Sense on frwiki) than Common Sense~enwiki. I hope this clear things. &#8208;&#8208;1997kB (talk) 21:25, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * - I'm not quite seeing the connection. Could you please clarify? Thanks,  GABgab 16:05, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * There've been several comments since your request.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:01, 3 October 2018 (UTC)


 * , thank you very much for your clarification. In that case, closing without action. GABgab 18:06, 3 October 2018 (UTC)