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Edit history, identical edits on pages edited by both accounts. Zinnober9 (talk) 00:07, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * - . I believe is the master. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:23, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, and Patiparmeshwar does appear to be the correct master. ST47 (talk) 00:41, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Case moved from Search Results Web results Aap ki Kachehri, Kiran Bedi ke Saath to Patiparmeshwar —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:44, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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I think the above is sufficient to warrant a look and I strongly suspect undisclosed paid editing, as Atlantic306 also felt might be happening. Pyar Ke Sadqay denied being a paid editor, claiming that editing was their "hobby and passion", which is a bizarre thing for a n00b to say. I also note some problematic English, which seems inconsistent with some of the content they've been submitting. I think they might, in some cases, be restoring pre-existing content, which could be suggestive of a longer-term campaign.
 * Five areas of interesection. Interesting in two ways: 1) Pyaar Ke Sadqay has been here for four days. 2) Indian and Pakistani actors are the focus. Most people choose one or the other.
 * Patiparmeshwar's MO seems to be to inflate article subjects with needless puffery like here, where Khan is "One of the the highest-paid actresses in Pakistan, she is the recipient of several accolades, including five Lux Style Awards, and features in listings of the nation's most popular personalities." Or here where Qamar is one of the most "popular" or here where Mustehsan is one of the "most popular and high-profile" celebrities in Pakistan.
 * Compare that to here where Karisma Kapoor becomes "one of the most talented actresses in Hindi cinema." Or here where Shah "has received praise for her acting prowess, has become a popular celebrity in Pakistan" or here where Altaf has "become a popular celebrity in the country". Or here where Abbas "has been named as the "Best Emerging Talent" in the media".
 * A more solid piece of evidence might be here where Pyar removes the subject's citizenship info, arguing vaguely, "not necessary to add canadian citizenship in the info box". Patiparmeshwar removed the same content in January, vaguely stating "edited to a better version".
 * "Edited to a better version". That's odd language. Reminds me of this edit by Pyar, "reverted back to a better version". Note also in that edit the change to the caption to "Kapoor promoting", and the change of Babita to Babita Kapoor, and the restoration of puffery elsewhere in the article? Compare to this edit by Patiparmeshwar. "Promoting", "Kapoor", etc.
 * "This time reliable sources has been provided." (Pyar Ke Sadqay) vs. "Reliable sources has been provided". (Patiparmeshwar)

Note also that in this permalink, Pyar Ke Sadqay copies Versace1608's signature. Only mentioning this in case it becomes a recurring tell. Also, based on some edits at Mahira Khan, which sneakily restored edits of Patiparmeshwar's, IPs such as 39.42.158.76 and 39.42.182.168 have probably also been used by this person. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:24, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * Highly with behavior putting it over the top.  --  Amanda  (aka DQ) 09:54, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * When I indef, do I flag this as confirmed, or suspected? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:22, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Meh, I'll just do confirmed. Closing. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:21, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Honestly, with this particular case it doesn't really matter. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 21:25, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

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See which is the same edit as prior sock    Ravensfire  (talk) 18:20, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * Got him. Thanks, . Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

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Made the same massive plot bloat edit to Meray Paas Tum Ho as prior sock. Also see who has also made the same edit to massively bloat the film plot. Something's fishy when multiple accounts make the same basic edit. There's also some similarities to who was blocked under a different master but these all could be tied to that account but the CU data was stale when the first checks for this master were done? I saw some overlap from prior socks at that account. Obviously stale, but something to note.  Ravensfire  (talk) 17:48, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for opening this. As we all know, most new users don't know what content has been removed from an article, so restoring it would be highly fishy. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:40, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * They are ✅ to each other but to the previous accounts. ST47 (talk) 21:14, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Closing per the above. I split the two that are confirmed into their own case over at Sockpuppet investigations/Mohid Irtiza and have subsequently and closed.  The SandDoctor  Talk 17:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

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Restored samer version preferred by socks.  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:51, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:40, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

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One blocked recently as a suspected sock in this case, the other blocked as an obvious sock of the first. Reporting findings. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:15, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
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 * The case is stale but the following are ✅ to each other:
 * -- Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:15, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * -- Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:15, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * -- Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:15, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * -- Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:15, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * -- Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:15, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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Restoring edits from prior sock. See vs  and  vs.  Ravensfire  (talk) 17:30, 19 August 2020 (UTC)  Ravensfire  (talk) 17:30, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

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 * . A check has been recently done, so probably not worth doing one considering the archives. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:45, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Checkuser has confirmed sockpuppetry twice since the initial block of Patiparmeshwar, so they are banned per WP:3STRIKES. Updated notice on sockmaster's userpage. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:56, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

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Same area of edits and overlap in articles. Restored which was very similar to  by a previous sock at the same article. This is followed closely by an edit by the other account on the same article. Requesting checkuser to find any sleepers etc. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:04, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

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Are oh Culcutte Wali previously submitted at Ushna Shah. Patiparmeshwar clearly seems to be pushing a POV, promotional agenda at this and other articles, such as Armeena Khan.
 * I've blocked the accounts myself as they seem ducky. Reported for pro forma and also to request checkuser. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:07, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm adding Rhea Tu Suchi Hai to the list. Rhea resubmits content that
 * Adding one more. Similar username, edits etc. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:49, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * - endorsing (for a sleeper check) due to the amount of sockpuppets created. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:56, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ to Ata Maji Sattak Li, no unblocked sleepers immediately visible. Kevin ( aka L235 · t · c) 01:47, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * All have been and edits reverted. Close. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:07, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

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Jumped into the same topic area as soon as previous socks were blocked; username is also following the same pattern (all are sentences in Hindustani or Punjabi; this one translates roughly as as "since when does bravery equal manliness?") M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 17:15, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

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 * I'm not 100% on Brave being a sock, but only because of an edit like this, where they seem to be removing promotional content from an article, rather than adding to it. But that could mean anything. And I also didn't check their edits too carefully, since we have a pending CU in the case opened above. Their long name format seems consistent though. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:09, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, as I look a bit more closely, I see numerous intersections with these other socks, including at Sheheryar Munawar, where a couple of these socks have also edited. And their edits to downplay Armeena Khan could be an attempt to downgrade her in comparison to Mahira Khan, this Patiparmeshwar's apparent obsession. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:20, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The edits are too similar to other socks for this not to be this master. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:55, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ to Ata Maji Sattak Li, no unblocked sleepers immediately visible. Kevin ( aka L235 · t · c) 01:47, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Account has been . Edits dealt with. Close. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:08, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

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Jumped into the same topic area as soon as previous socks were blocked; username is also following the same pattern (all are sentences in Hindustani or Punjabi; this one translates roughly as as "since when does bravery equal manliness?") M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 17:15, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

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 * I'm not 100% on Brave being a sock, but only because of an edit like this, where they seem to be removing promotional content from an article, rather than adding to it. But that could mean anything. And I also didn't check their edits too carefully, since we have a pending CU in the case opened above. Their long name format seems consistent though. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:09, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, as I look a bit more closely, I see numerous intersections with these other socks, including at Sheheryar Munawar, where a couple of these socks have also edited. And their edits to downplay Armeena Khan could be an attempt to downgrade her in comparison to Mahira Khan, this Patiparmeshwar's apparent obsession. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:20, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The edits are too similar to other socks for this not to be this master. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:55, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ to Ata Maji Sattak Li, no unblocked sleepers immediately visible. Kevin ( aka L235 · t · c) 01:47, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Account has been . Edits dealt with. Close. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:08, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

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Broadly reverting articles to re-instate the sockpuppet's edits Paisarepa (talk) 17:12, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * Blocked 2 weeks. Thank you for the tip. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:36, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

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Very recently created account, immediately started wide-spread reversion to re-instate these same edits. Paisarepa (talk) 17:36, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and tagged by at the same time this was opened. Nothing left to do here, so close. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 00:29, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

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Similar edits to previous socks. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:29, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

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Filing pro-forma. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:33, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

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Same editing area, reverting previous reversions of socks. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:18, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

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Filed as pro forma. Protected the pages involved for varying lengths (1 week to 1 month) depending on activity by the sockpuppets and previous protection lengths. Blocked IP 1 month. The range might be a contender for a range block in the future. The range is all socking since July this year. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:18, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

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New account made similar edit to prior sock.  Ravensfire  (talk) 16:53, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

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- already by, behavioural similarity seems obvious. Marking for close as it doesn't look like anything else needs doing at this time. ~ mazca  talk 17:54, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

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Making similar edits to previous socks. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 17:17, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

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Filed pro forma. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 17:17, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

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Similar username to previous socks. Page overlap with the IP I've just blocked. Similar editing area too. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 17:35, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

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Its to me, but as CU hasn't been run for a while,  for a sleeper check (previous sleeper checks have been run for this case). Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 17:35, 18 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Blocking the account I found because . Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 17:37, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Long history confirmed, nothing else to do. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 19:01, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

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First edit is essentially the same as  from IP blocked as a sock of Patiparmeshwar.  Ravensfire  (talk) 13:54, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * Quack. Blocked. Thanks, Ravensfire. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:42, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

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Check the page history of Bilal Abbas Khan. The sockmaster made the edit on December 15, 2020, which was reverted by another user. The master account is currently blocked after being identified as a sockpuppet of. This other account was created today and made the exact same edit on the same page as seen from. Ashley yoursmile!  15:10, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Both accounts are ✅ to Sockpuppet investigations/Patiparmeshwar. . Please merge this case into Patiparmeshwar. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 21:27, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * case merged. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 23:18, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Nothing left to do. Close. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 23:19, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

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Similar edits to and overlap with previous socks. Username. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:46, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * . Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:47, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

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Same pattern of editing. Please check Momina Mustehsan and Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy. Satrar (talk) 17:32, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * These have all been blocked, although some may have been flagged as socks of Bttowadch. I think I lean toward flagging these as Patiparmeshwar, but I don't know for sure if it matters. I'll let a clerk decide. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC)


 * It's six of one, half a dozen of the other, I could see arguments for Parey Hut love in particular belonging to either sockmaster (they overlap with both possible masters, including removing a G5 from an article by a CU-confirmed Bttowadch sock). I don't think it's worth the time to work out whose sock is whose, they're all blocked. Closing. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:57, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

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Overlap of pages that the other sock accounts edited, for instance Jehangir Wadia, Neville Wadia, Bilal Abbas Khan, etc., which are edited by,. Plus the username is in lines with what the master uses. So they are probably the same, requesting a CU check. Ashley yoursmile!  13:20, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * ✅. Bagging and tagging sock account. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   13:37, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

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Similar username like previous sock accounts, editing same article Shahzad Sheikh as previous sock accounts including. Requesting CU. Ashley yoursmile!  10:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * - if anything a sleeper check might be useful. Username and the page they edited certainly suggests so, but CU confirmation would be good. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:55, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ = . Now blocked. No sleepers. - Mailer Diablo 15:42, 13 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Tagged. Close. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 18:31, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

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Overlap of pages as previous socks and. Obviously similar username. Ashley yoursmile!  17:13, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping . -- Ashley yoursmile!  17:17, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * Blocked. I'll let someone else decide whether a CU would be useful/helpful/fruitful. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:53, 27 February 2021 (UTC)