Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Paul Gibson1971/Archive

07 March 2015

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This involves edits to E. A. Juffali and Brothers, which both the master and Mansour have edited, and related edits to List of Arabs by net worth, which the master and Paulgreatson have edited. It starts with this edit by the master adding the Juffali family to the net worth article. It continues with this edit by the master upping the net worth of the Juffali family to $19.8b. Then, after someone removed the family from the article, Paulgreatson adds it back in.

As to the Juffali article itself, the master adds the net worth to the article, removing the citation needed template and "sourcing" it to the net worth article. In this edit, another editor (not involved) changes the net worth and adds an actual source. Mansour comes along and adds back the same material inserted by the master. Mansour does that repeatedly until reported for edit warring at WP:AN3. I step in and block Mansour for 72 hours for disruptive editing (intentionally not blocking the reporter who also edit-warred).

Beyond that there are the user names. The two Pauls are fairly obvious, and the Mansourblake also has partly an anglo-saxon name. Bbb23 (talk) 02:39, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * - Pinging per request. It's past end of day March 24. Ivanvector (talk) 21:48, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * - Their edits do not overlap, but still, this kind of editing is illegitimate.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  01:07, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * - Mansourblake11 = Paul Gibson1971. From CU results, i'd say the other account is involved. I want to drop an email to 2 people before proceeding on closing, there might be more to this case. Ping me if no response in 3 days. -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  04:38, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Ping-ping.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  21:49, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm reaching out to DQ to figure out whether I should proceed or if he wants to finish this one up. If you don't hear from me by end-of-day on 24 March, please ping me and I'll get this one done.  Risker (talk) 02:26, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * :) Mike V • Talk 00:22, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Checkuser comment:  and  are  socks; I have to downgrade this from DQ's more certain result due to staleness of some data.  is .  Risker (talk) 02:53, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks,, was the data stale at the time DQ worked on it or has it since become stale?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:47, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It stale-dated in between DQ's checks and my confirming checks, unfortunately. Since I can't see all of the information he had at the time he made his comments, it does not seem correct for me to make an unqualified confirmation. Nonetheless, I see no reason to think he made any errors in his assessment. I hope this helps. Risker (talk) 15:33, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, it helps. Based on Risker's and DQ's comments, I've indeffed and tagged the master and Mansourblake11 as confirmed. Based on the inconclusive as to the other puppet but the obvious behavioral and name similarities, I've indeffed and tagged Paulgreatson1978 as "proven" (in between suspected and CU-based). Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:53, 26 March 2015 (UTC)