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09 February 2016

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Pinging who has dealt with this in the past. The 188.254.219.92 IP address has created draft articles Draft:Hunno-Bulgars and Draft:Origin of the Bulgars and appears to be a WP:DUCK sock of PavelStaykov. IP 185.8.60.69 also created Draft:Hunno-Bulgars and has engaged in PavelStaykov-esque talk page behavior. The content being posted in the drafts matches what the blocked account has posted previously on related articles' talk pages, including here. In fact, when accused of sockpuppetry (among other things) at Draft talk:Origin of the Bulgars, the IP responded by continuing the earlier arguments about inclusion of his material, effectively linking it to PavelStaykov.

Please see previous sockpuppet investigation handled on the 3RR board regarding this account here.

I'm not requesting CU since they wont link IP addresses to accounts anyway. I think this is enough for an admin WP:DUCK block. The 188.254.219.92 IP seems at least somewhat static since its been in use by this user from 17 Jan thru 7 Feb. Nick&#8288;—&#8288;Contact/Contribs 04:21, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

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See Talk:Onogurs - it was decided that the investigation will began somewhere from February 7, 2016 ie. two days ago, by me in person. Thank you for opening it in advance, and if have more experience with SPI investigation some advice and help, even assistance will be welcome.--Crovata (talk) 04:45, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

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 * The active IP blocked for a month. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:38, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

13 February 2016
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 * Suspected sockpuppets
 * 16:26, 4 February 2016 - created the draft Draft talk:Origin of the Bulgars (note that this diffs and comments are deleted and were saved by me on 12 February 2016)
 * 20:17, 7 February 2016 - "this channel is using older version of the article Utigurs here on WP, and I participated in the writing of the article Utigurs not long ago. Hence they are citing what I have written on the article Utigurs, not the opposite."
 * 13:48, 9 February 2016 - "I am not Pavel Staykov, though I know him personally. He is my colleague."
 * 04:57, 13 February 2016 - "My mistake was that I got involved into edit wars because PavelStaykov convinced me of his point of view." (in defense for unblock)
 * 08:52, 13 February 2016 - placed the same information from the previously deleted drafts on the talk page

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 * 10:15, 13 February 2016 - placed the same information from the previously deleted drafts on the talk page
 * 10:19, 13 February 2016 - modified discussion title and comments at Talk:Dulo clan, and replaced with "Origin of the Bulgars and Dulo" and comment "The real origin of the Bulgars and Dulo can be read here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:188.165.1.131" linking to the information from the previous drafts in his talk page. On the same discussion previously commented User:NewZealot, the confirmed user sock by PavelStaykov.

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 * 09:45, 13 February 2016 - placed the same information from the previously deleted drafts on the talk page → the information was removed, "rmv test edits; user talk page is not a place for test edits. Please carry out such edits at WP:Sandbox."
 * 09:47, 13 February 2016, 12:08, 13 February 2016 - opened new discussion "What is Oghur language and who spoke it ?" at the Talk:Oghur languages, linking to the fringe information (now removed) on his talk page.

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 * 09:12, 13 February 2016 - placed the same information from the previously deleted drafts on the talk page
 * 09:13, 13 February 2016 - modified the discussion "The origin of the Bulgars" at the Talk:Bulgars, linking it not to deleted drafts but his talk page, as well posted a personal attack: "Hey, crovata, explain me something - what does a croatian gypsy, like you, has to do with the Bulgarian history and who elected you to speak on our behalf?"
 * 12:00, 13 February 2016 - reverted back the link and personal attack
 * 12:08, 13 February 2016 - linked to the old revision at the Talk:Oghur languages discussion (see above)
 * 12:01, 13 February 2016 - reverted back the discussion and link, as well personal attack at the Talk:Utigurs (see below)
 * 12:33, 13 February 2016 - reverted back the discussion and link, as well the personal attack

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 * 09:39, 13 February 2016 - slight edit on the title of the discussion "The origin of the Bulgars"
 * 10:35, 13 February 2016 - protection on the article Dulo clan expired and immediately was attacked the next day, 13 February, by also IP:
 * 13:14, 13 February 2016, 14:30, 13 February 2016 - "vandalism dude, dont do it again I will report you"
 * 13:15, 13 February 2016, and 14:35, 13 February 2016- reverted back the discussion and link, as well personal attack at the Talk:Utigurs (see below)

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 * 09:18, 13 February 2016 - placed the same information from the previously deleted drafts on the talk page
 * 09:19, 13 February 2016 - modified the discussion "The origin of the Bulgars" at the Talk:Utigurs, linking it not to deleted drafts but his talk page

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 * 09:24, 13 February 2016 - placed the same information from the previously deleted drafts on the talk page
 * 09:25, 13 February 2016 - modified the discussion "The real article Kutrigurs" at the Talk:Kutrigurs, linking it not to deleted draft but his talk page
 * 10:13, 13 February 2016 - modified the discussion title to "The real article Kutrigurs (Bulgars)"
 * 00:53, 14 February 2016 - modified discussion at Talk:Dulo clan (see above-below)

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 * 09:30, 13 February 2016 - placed the same information from the previously deleted drafts on the talk page
 * 09:31, 13 February 2016 - modified the discussion "Origin" at the Talk:Onogurs, linking it not to deleted draft but his talk page

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 * Update1:
 * reverted the Dulo clan article 16:22, 13 February 2016, 16:26, 13 February 2016 (sources added)
 * reverted the Talk:Bulgars 16:23, 13 February 2016
 * reverted the Talk:Utigurs 16:27, 13 February 2016
 * reverted the Talk:Kutrigurs 16:28, 13 February 2016
 * reverted the Talk:Onogurs 16:29, 13 February 2016
 * reverted the Talk:Oghur languages 16:29, 13 February 2016
 * (!) attacked the article Oghur languages - 16:31, 13 February 2016
 * (!) attacked my personal talk page - 16:35, 13 February 2016
 * again, placed the draft on my talk page 16:40, 13 February 2016

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 * Update2:
 * reverted the Talk:Onogurs 18:53, 13 February 2016
 * reverted the Talk:Kutrigurs 18:54, 13 February 2016
 * reverted the Oghur languages 19:37, 13 February 2016
 * reverted the Talk:Dulo clan 18:52, 13 February 2016
 * double reverted the Talk:Utigurs 19:29, 13 February 2016, 20:16, 13 February 2016 (personal attack on the user - "reverted greek vandalism" → related with his previous racist terms for the Turks)
 * double reverted the Talk:Bulgars 19:55, 13 February 2016, 20:17, 13 February 2016 - personal attack on the user - "manafs editing" → according to this edit, manaf(s) denotes: officially paid males to fuck Ottoman's Sultans - posted by user sock NewZealot, proving this IPs are related to the PavelStaykov
 * multiple reverts of the Dulo clan, , confusing the User:ClueBot NG to revert it due to the terms "vandal, spam" in the edit summary , also  ; the edit summary "eй анадолско манафче ше ти еба халката да знаеш" badly translated mean "hey Anatolian manafche Chez fuck you ring to know"
 * reverted the Talk:Oghurs languages 20:21, 13 February 2016
 * (!) again attacked my personal talk page 20:23, 13 February 2016 ("don't remove the Warning - people should know who you are"), which although reverted by the admin Bbb23, another IP reverted it again:
 * 22:20, 13 February 2016; the edit summary "Ей манафче нали ти казах да не махаш предупреждението" badly translated mean "Hey manafche I told you not to get out warning", which related to the edit summary by the IP above

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 * Update3
 * reverted the Talk:Bulgars 22:50, 13 February 2016 ("reverted edit of turkish manafs")
 * reverted the Talk:Dulo clan 22:52, 13 February 2016 ("премахнати редакции на гръцки редерази"; transl. removed revisions of Greek rederazi)
 * (!) personal attack at User talk:Cplakidas - 22:58, 13 February 2016
 * reverted the Dulo clan 23:28, 13 February 2016
 * (!) again reverted the personal attack at User talk:Cplakidas - 23:39, 13 February 2016 ("Не махай предупреждението бе гръцко вандалче"; transl. do not remove the warning bea Greek vandal)

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 * previously, foolishly in good faith, reverted Talk:Bulgars 22:46, 13 February 2016
 * 23:23, 13 February 2016 - but placed the same information from the previously deleted drafts on the talk page by IP 185.87.108.164
 * 23:24, 13 February 2016 - and modified the link at Talk:Bulgars, linking not anymore to IP 185.65.206.138, but IP 185.87.108.164


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Please see archived sockpuppet investigation from 9 February, and especially the one handled on the 3RR board regarding the sock activity here. As can be seen, were edited all the articles (ie. their talk pages, depending on the case) which were listed on the 3RR board beside Talk:Sandilch, Talk:Zabergan and Talk:Huns (repeating of the same disruptive activity, similar writing and editing style). The attack was simultaneous, and each of the talk pages was attacked by the different IP, to evade the block with multiple socks (even some edits were reverted by different IP). The IPs although different, are obviously connected (somehow) to the acitivty of the blocked IP socks and user accounts. As noted before (even months), please block this IPs, and semi-protect both article and talk page of the listed articles for the prolonged period of time. The socks (saw several time in the past), follow when is expiration date of the protection and immediately react. This way disruptive activity won't happen anymore (or for some time), because it's just too sparse to follow and report every time: Bulgars, Utigurs, Kutrigurs, Dulo clan, Oghur languages, Huns, Sandilch, Zabergan.--Crovata (talk) 15:18, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Should be all those discussions started by IP and user socks of the PavelStaykov at articles talk page be archived?--Crovata (talk) 15:22, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, now remembered, didn't open the investigation through "How to open an investigation:" because it was easier and faster to me this way, and because of which probably it's not listed. Should I open it always through the "How to - Submit" pattern?--Crovata (talk) 16:54, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I fixed it.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:12, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You're familiar with this case.--Crovata (talk) 16:59, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

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 * Fully support Crovata'a request, these articles have been a running sore for too long. Both articles and talk pages need to be protected, and the IPs banned. One of the most recent incarnations,, now engages in petty tit-for-tat reverts on unrelated articles just because I contributed in them. I realize the reluctance to blanket-protect articles and blanket-block IP addresses, but these articles have seen nothing but disruption lately. Constantine  ✍  15:54, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * All this articles are historically related, that's the problem and why the socks do disruptive edits on several articles.--Crovata (talk) 23:09, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Understood what you meant by unrelated articles - they are unrelated with the case.--Crovata (talk) 01:36, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

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 * The vast majority of the IPs listed belong to web hosts or colocations. I have blocked all those ranges. Mike V • Talk 16:39, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

14 February 2016

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Has had the same "Origin of the Bulgars" stuff on his talk page that was on other socks' talk pages. Electric Burst (Electron firings)(Zaps) 20:09, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

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 * Webhost blocked. Mike V • Talk 16:39, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

15 February 2016
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 * Suspected sockpuppets
 * 09:12, 13 February 2016 - placed the same information from the previously deleted drafts on the talk page, and then blanked it on the same day
 * 09:13, 13 February 2016 - modified the link at Talk:Bulgars, not anymore linking to the deleted draft, but his talk page
 * 02:45, 15 February 2016 - reverted Talk:Bulgars
 * 02:50, 15 February 2016 - modified the link at Talk:Bulgars, not anymore linking to the above listed IP 185.87.108.164, but above listed IP 222.233.53.136
 * 02:45, 15 February 2016 - reverted Talk:Dulo clan
 * 02:46, 15 February 2016 - reverted Talk:Utigurs, linking to the above listed IP 31.168.143.196
 * 02:46, 15 February 2016 - reverted Talk:Kutrigurs, linking to the above listed IP 2A02:7AA0:1201:0:0:0:3C31:605E
 * 02:45, 15 February 2016 - reverted Talk:Onogurs
 * 07:36, 15 February 2016 - reverted Talk:Oghur languages

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 * 13:55, 15 February 2016 - reverted Dulo clan, listed above under 13 February

Have the same activity, and even links to above listed IP talk pages.--Crovata (talk) 04:14, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


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 * See a March 4 complaint about the same thing at Oghur languages, filed at the 3RR noticeboard. These IPs are from RackBank Data Centers in India, who are probably a web hosting company not a regular ISP. It is possible that all the PavelStaykov socks come from webhosts. If so this would justify long-duration range blocks such as two years, using the webhostblock template. WP:OP could be consulted, or an administrator who is familiar with open proxies might look at it. EdJohnston (talk) 15:58, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

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 * Webhosts blocked. Mike V • Talk 16:39, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

28 April 2016
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 * Suspected sockpuppets
 * 06:23, 28 April 2016 - intentional trolloing at the Bulgars talk page by an IP not listed above, but disruptive history activity since 8 September 2015 on related articles

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 * 15:53, 28 April 2016 - when Cplakidas removed IP troll attempt, the newly created sock account reverted text (which is archived) - "Do not remove other editors' remarks"
 * 16:27, 28 April 2016 - again revert
 * 18:46, 28 April 2016 - placed the same information from the previously deleted drafts on the talk page
 * 18:50, 28 April 2016 - by comment "Rv manafs editing" (see above) exposed itself to be the same editor/style as before by PavelStaykov, as well user account name "Dulovokil", which are "Dulo" and "Vokil" names related to the Bulgars, and articles he disruptively edited before.

Seems clear sock user account of PavelStaykov with the same disruptive activity.--Crovata (talk) 19:11, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

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 * The following two accounts are ✅ to each other:


 * but I have blocked the IP for 1 week for disruptive editing. Mike V • Talk 16:39, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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 * JoyceMood is a SPA that restored sock User:Gingiby's edit.
 * Please see the revision history of Talk:Huns. Българ shares the same fixation with several sockpuppets, such as Expnax. Sro23 (talk) 16:39, 30 April 2017 (UTC) Sro23 (talk) 16:39, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

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✅, blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:09, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

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Adding POV material as before at Talk:Bulgars. Recommend protecting the talk page, again, for increased length of time. ‖ Ebyabe talk - Attract and Repel  ‖ 04:44, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

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 * Account indeffed and two IPs blocked. Other two IPs are not active.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  12:07, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

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The user has a constant single purpose to prove the Aryan racial superiority and the large majority of the Bulgars and their great role into the enhnogenesis of the modern Bulgarians. Jingiby (talk) 06:05, 22 August 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 06:05, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * Results:


 * are ✅ from blocked PavelStaykov sock . Another LTA was using one of the proxies here at the same time as Mitaka ot Pernik was editing, so there is a slim chance this could be a joe job.

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  21:31, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * are ✅ to each other. Though editing via a proxy there are clear links to the three accounts I listed above. -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  21:50, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Socks tagged and 188.225.39.123 blocked two weeks. Closing.

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All accounts were created within an hour of one another. The majority of the accounts have blatantly similar usernames. See history of User talk:Jingiby - all accounts engaged in the same harassment and in similar behavior patterns of a known LTA. The character set used on the is significant - it is similar (and with similar behavior) to the set of accounts reported and blocked at this SPI. I believe that these accounts are all related. Creating this SPI retro-actively to track work and for record-keeping purposes. A checkuser might be recommended here given the connection; sleepers are highly probable.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   18:46, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * The following blocked accounts are ✅ to each other:


 * The following accounts are ✅ to each other and to group one (but were editing through an open proxy):


 * I've blocked the following accounts as sleepers as they're ✅ from the first group:


 * Some of these are globally locked, and there is plenty of logged-out disruption. I've tried a range block, but it's short as there is potential collateral. Note is the oldest account listed, though I doubt they're the master.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  19:54, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  13:29, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * My money is on PavelStaykov as the master, if only because Crovata1, Crovata2 and Crovata3 have all been assigned to him. Favonian (talk) 17:27, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree. This should be moved to WP:Sockpuppet investigations/PavelStaykov please.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  21:52, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Casename moved to PavelStaykov and tags applied. Closing.

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Single purpose account to editing articles related to the Bulgars. Also following a new behaviour to revert all my edits. Jingiby (talk) 16:38, 24 August 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 16:38, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * You opened this report in "closed" status. Regardless, both accounts are now blocked.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:42, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Jingiby (talk) 17:49, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries. I just wanted to let you know why it was marked as closed before any action was taken. Thank you for your patience in dealing with this particular sockmaster.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:51, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

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SPA editing articles related to Bulgars. Following me and reverting my edits on other articles. Jingiby (talk) 07:27, 30 August 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 07:27, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * Both blocked; closing. Favonian (talk) 11:34, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

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Editing articles related to Bulgaria and Macedonian history, personal attacks in edit summaries   and harassment of the same User:Jingiby , I saw a few of these at UAA, 1 and 4 contain "terrorist" (which is also over his edit summaries) and 2 is a personal attack at the same editor. These are all blocked, but I'm posting them here as requested by User:Doug Weller on Jingiby's usertalk. – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  21:19, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * The following accounts are ✅};

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  13:36, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * All are already blocked.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:50, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Already tagged so closing.

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Harassment at User talk:Jingiby again     Suggest considering a range block if all IPs are linked. – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  13:39, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * Rangeblocked 213.226.63.192/27 for 1 month. GABgab 15:53, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

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User again. MarkSewath (talk) 05:51, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

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This is the same person. Jingiby (talk) 05:54, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

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The IPs have been blocked. I've also ✅ User:Captain Ivan Danko and blocked and tagged that account. This can be closed now. Doug Weller talk 16:33, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

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Typical arrogant behavior, abusing me and reverting my edits. Also personal attacks against other Bulgarian editors. Jingiby (talk) 12:38, 9 October 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 12:38, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * (admin comment) . Another duck quacking into a megaphone, same IP address has already been blocked before for the same thing. – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  15:06, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Closing per the above., patrolling admins can close cases when they've reached a conclusion on the issue of sockpuppetry. A clerk will look over everything before archiving. ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 16:19, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

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Single Purpose Account again editing article related to Bulgars changing the text and sources confirming their Turkic origins with Indo-European one. More specifically claiming absolute original research that the Kidarites are the forefathers of the Bulgars. Jingiby (talk) 07:17, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Also the strange manner of citing mainly Encyclopedia Britannica in specific way as here today. Jingiby (talk) 14:42, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked. Closing.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:57, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

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SPA aiming to prove the non-Turkic origins of the Bulgars, using the original story about the link between the Kidarites and the Bulgars. Jingiby (talk) 05:05, 15 October 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 05:05, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Also the same personal attacks in edit summary in Bulgarian here. It means translated: You are paid editor, terrorist and Pomak, i.e Bulgarian Muslim. 07:01, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * All those listed plus are blocked. Closing. Favonian (talk) 10:28, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

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Back again making personal attacks on Jingiby, likely on Russian, calling the user a "terrorist" and "paid editor". WP:DUCK. theinstantmatrix (talk) 20:17, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * . Btw, I believe it's Bulgarian. ;) Favonian (talk) 20:23, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

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Doug Weller talk 16:23, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

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✅ as identical to earlier socks this month. Doug Weller talk 16:23, 21 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Quick question before I archive this. If the account is CU confirmed, why tag it as a suspected sock? Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:50, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Good question. I compared it with a sock that User:Favonian blocked and copied the tag used then. I've compared it now with CU checked socks and retagged. Doug Weller  talk 17:10, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

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One edit to User:Iliev/Committed identity calling him a terrorist in the edit summary. WP:DUCK so blocked, requesting a sleeper check. – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  18:35, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Added a third sock, already blocked. – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  18:59, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * I added a second probable sockpuppet . Please check for any more. Sro23 (talk) 18:53, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * and are ✅.,  and the sleeper  are .-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  23:22, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The usernames of the last two alone are quacks into a megaphone - "three Proto-Bulgars" and "four Proto-Bulgars". I have tagged all the accounts, they were already blocked so closing. – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  13:06, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

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now hidden personal attack in Bulgarian against. (it was not my intention to request checkuser. Must have pasted into wrong slot)Dlohcierekim (talk) 19:22, 26 October 2017 (UTC) Dlohcierekim (talk) 19:22, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I guess it may be moot as the attack user name tipped the balance to indef blockDlohcierekim (talk) 19:31, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * Just blocked .Dlohcierekim (talk) 00:35, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * Copied from Sockpuppet investigations/ PavelStaykov (with the extra space). Sro23 (talk) 00:13, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

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Personal attacks on edit-summary again. Jingiby (talk) 16:58, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * - Please indef sock. Sro23 (talk) 17:19, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Sro23 - ✅.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   17:20, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

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User's first three edits are edit warring with Jingiby on multiple articles, the same kinds of edits just without the usual loud quacking in edit summaries. – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  15:19, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * No need for CU, . GABgab 15:51, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

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Reverting my edits without clear reason. Personal attacks on the edit summaries in Bulgarian, written with capital letters. Jingiby (talk) 04:32, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * I blocked the one. Can't remember the right tag. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 04:39, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Blocked both indefinitely. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 04:44, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * IP's are not normally blocked indefinitely. Please consider adjusting that block. Sro23 (talk) 04:49, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. How long is a good time for this? -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 04:51, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * 3 days I think should be long enough. Sro23 (talk) 04:52, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Sad thing is Pavel will probably have a new IP before this SPI is closed :( -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 04:54, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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The specific and primitive way of providing references as here for example and also here. Also the nonsensic attempts to prove that the Bulgars were part of the Huns who were Indo-Europeans and did were not related to the early Turkic people. Jingiby (talk) 19:36, 9 November 2017 (UTC) . Jingiby (talk) 19:36, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * - I added the account per WP:DUCK. Please block Чеп в Гъза на Помаците indefinitely. Sro23 (talk) 22:34, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Already blocked, so I tagged it. Also, webhost rangeblocked. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:17, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

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A new IP added. Its edits in specific only for Staykov way the article Bulgar language, making significant changes, aiming to deny its Turkic origins. Also one making personal attacks on my talk-page. Jingiby (talk) 04:57, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The same info that was deleted from the article Bulgar language, when it was protectet several months ago - check here, was added recently by the first IP above - check here. This is a sock from the same blocked user. Jingiby (talk) 08:23, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Ти си най-голямата марионетка на помаци — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.226.63.140 (talk) 13:48, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * (both of them) for 1 month. – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  13:13, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

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Personal attacks on my talk-page as well abusing other editors in Bulgarian. Jingiby (talk) 15:22, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  15:30, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

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Newly registred editor starting edit-warring on the article Bulgar language. Jingiby (talk) 19:02, 11 November 2017 (UTC) . Jingiby (talk) 19:02, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * . Favonian (talk) 19:04, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

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Acting again on an article related to the history of the Bulgars, reverting to an old version full with POV and fringe views. Jingiby (talk) 10:34, 12 November 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 10:34, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * Blocked; closing. Favonian (talk) 10:36, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK, once again calling Jingiby "a terrorist". theinstantmatrix (talk) 21:07, 18 November 2017 (UTC) Annnd another one. theinstantmatrix (talk) 21:20, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * Already blocked. Sro23 (talk) 21:25, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

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same type of edit as previous sock, same edit summary. diff -★- PlyrStar93. → Message me. ← 22:04, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

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Personal attacks against me. Jingiby (talk) 05:56, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  08:51, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

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his activity is typical for Staykov - SPA aiming to prove the Bulgars were not a Turkic people providing the dubious Bulgarian DNA research not confirmed by any independent study. Jingiby (talk) 06:32, 29 November 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 06:32, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * I endorse running a checkuser to check the first user and look for sleepers, and have added another 8 obvious socks, there is a lot more disruption than usual at the moment. – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  09:15, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * - For any sleepers, please. Thanks, Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 20:19, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * - Katietalk 21:10, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * These accounts are ✅ to each other:


 * These accounts are ✅ to each other and to the master, and are to the first group:


 * Ке6ап Ки6рикчиев is ✅ to Sockpuppet investigations/Wikinger.
 * Vasil dobrev, Чеп в Гъза на Македонските Помаци, and Уй за Македонските Помаци are ❌.
 * All blocked awaiting tags; several are globally locked. I'm going off to get a stiff drink and to learn Cyrillic as quickly as humanly possible. Katietalk 21:58, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Interesting – Кебап Кибрикчиев follows the same username pattern as the top four in the second list and the top one in the first list. It's some kind of alliterative word play. The two "unrelated" Cyrillic ones have strikingly similar names to other confirmed socks and the repetitive personal attacks and harassment this case has all been about. Perhaps all this is somehow related to Long-term abuse/Wikinger...? – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  22:08, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Highly doubtful. Wikinger impersonates LTAs and sockmasters, and he geolocates differently than this master. Not surprised he tried to latch on to this one. Katietalk 22:14, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Closing. I think it's now past the point where tagging these socks would be productive. No tags per WP:DENY. Sro23 (talk) 23:33, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

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The same story again. Jingiby (talk) 04:42, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Newly registered User reverting only my recent edits.

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 * IP blocked one month, users indeffed. – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  11:53, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

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Registered User name consisting personal attacks in Bulgarian. Jingiby (talk) 13:53, 1 December 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 13:53, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

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Another obvious IP sock appeared, 5.62.158.88; now blocked with TPA revoked and article semi-protected. theinstantmatrix (talk) 17:07, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

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Now blocked. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:39, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

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Newly registered user beginning with personal attacks against me. Jingiby (talk) 12:42, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  12:55, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ to and . Blocked tagged and closing.

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Personal attacks against me in Bulgarian. Jingiby (talk) 15:37, 2 December 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 15:37, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * 79.110.16.0/20 as a webhost, the other IP has also been blocked. GABgab 15:46, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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Reverting my edits and abusing me as usually. Jingiby (talk) 18:00, 2 December 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 18:00, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * I blocked the named account for the disruptive editing and as an obvious sock. I have added an IP to the list above (blocked by another admin) just for the record.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:22, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Account now blocked. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 18:22, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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Comments posted on talk pages of the articles Bulgarians and Bulgars as usually claiming Bulgarians are descendants of the Bulgars who are not Turckic and Bulgarians are non-Slavic people. Jingiby (talk) 18:09, 5 December 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 18:09, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * - . Please block the IP. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:37, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Gladly. Drmies (talk) 19:23, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * IP's blocked. Closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:26, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

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The same comments on Bulgarians by newly registered user. Jingiby (talk) 04:37, 6 December 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 04:37, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * That was probably my mistake. Sorry. Jingiby (talk) 16:27, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * Closing. Sro23 (talk) 16:48, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

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I have suspected from the very beginning that this is a puppet of Pavel Staykov. The topic is as usually Bulgarians are not Slavs and they are related mostly to Bulgars etc. The vast amount of walls of information that he has poured on the talk page of Bulgarians is typical for this user. In addition, he has openly contacted with Pavel Staykov's Facebook group. He used the talk to spread some untruths about me, he also have made on Bulgarian Wikipedia. For example that I was reported to the Bulgarian police and the prosecutors for engaging deceptive campaign and I and my friends were writing false information on Wikipedia. He even provided the link for that story which occured several years ago and because of that he was blocked for legal treats on Bulgarian Wikipedia. He has claimed also as usually, there were evidences that I was paid to write on Wikipedia. His ridiculous claims that on talk page of Bulgarians were several editors, who have agreed with him, but their comments were now gone. These users were also simply socks (now blocked) from that well-known vandal, who has terrorized both the English and the Bulgarian Wikipedia for years, harassing everyone who dares to oppose them with both personal attacks and legal threats, while obviously having some biased agenda. He also have discussed with the sock/s plans how to “ban” me here. He also wrote something in his typical style, full of threats and with capital letters, but he felt it was a mistake and he was quacking deleted the text. Check here please: This edit of Yanchev is very special. It refers to an article on a Bulgarian news site that mentions a complaint from Pavel Staykov against Bulgarian Wikipedia to the Bulgarian Prosecutor's Office two years ago. Staykov was therefore blocked for legal threats permanently. His puppets periodically refer to this complaint on the English and Bulgarian Wikipedia and frighten the editors with it. Jingiby (talk) 19:06, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * NO, THIS IS NOT MY ARGUMENT!! THIS IS NOT MY CHANGES!!! WHY CAN'T YOU SEE HOW DECEPTIVE THEY ARE??? LOOK AT HOW THEY ARE GANGING AGAINST ME AND LYING ABOUT MY CHANGES! READ WHAT I SAID BELOW! I AM NOT MAKING THESE CLAIMS!!! I DO NOT WANT TO ADD PROTO-BULGARIAN OR THRACIAN, I WANT TO REMOVE SLAVIC FROM THE LEAD, BECAUSE BULGARIANS ARE NOT ONLY SLAVIC, BUT MULTIPLE ANCESTRAL GROUPS MAKE UP BULGARIANS. JINGIBY AND HIS SAVVY FRIENDS ARE NOT BULGARIANS, AND THEY DON'T LIVE IN BULGARIA!! THEY HAVE ALREADY DESTROYED THE BULGARIAN PAGE IN BULGARIAN LANGUAGE, NOW THEY ARE COMING FOR THE ENGLISH ONE!!! THEY VICIOUSLY BAN ANYONE WHO OPPOSE THEM!!! WE ARE OVER 500 PEOPLE AGAINST THIS ONE INDIVIDUAL!!! PLEASE EXAMINE BOTH SIDES MORE CAREFULLY!!!!! --TishoYanchev (talk) 14:48, 7 December 2017 (UTC). Jingiby (talk) 15:50, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Also on several places, he is repeating that the editors on the Bulgarians article's conversation page are not Bulgarians and are falsifying the Bulgarian history. This is also a characteristic of Staykov's style as for exaple:JINGIBY AND HIS SAVVY FRIENDS ARE NOT BULGARIANS, AND THEY DON'T LIVE IN BULGARIA!!; YOU WERE reported to the Police, because you are not Bulgarian nor from Bulgaria! Your friends are also NOT Bulgarians!! etc.Jingiby (talk) 19:15, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * He also is attacking the editors oppenly as: OMG, YOU ARE THE MOST LYING AND DECEPTIVE PERSON I HAVE EVER SEEN!; These people LIE about my changes, LIE about my arguments, and gang up against me in such a cunning and deceptive way!; Why do you insist of perpetuating a LIE? Is it not a lie to say that Bulgarians are Slavic ethnic group if THE MAJORITY OF THE ANCESTRAL ETHNIC GROUPS ARE NOT SLAVIC??; You lie about my arguments and changes!!! I will report you to admin and i will not give up until we stop your corruption scheme!!! etc. Jingiby (talk) 19:21, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Other specifity of Staykov's style is not to signing his comments. That is in this case the same habit. 90% from his edits were not signed. Jingiby (talk) 19:26, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It may be a meatpuppet also. Jingiby (talk) 19:27, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Regarding this edit he claims The admin above: Алиса Селезньова is his friend, she bans anyone who tires to stand up against Jingiby. However Алиса Селезньова is admin on Bulgarian Wikipedia. Yanchew is not registered there and is very strange how he knows that Алиса Селезньова is an admin on Bulgarian Wikipedia, she is my friend! and she bans anyone who tires to stand up against me?!Jingiby (talk) 20:39, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Several days ago he allegedly joined a Facebook group organized especially against me! On the edit above he threatens as follows: This is my last attempt to resolve the issue peacefuly, then i will contact admins and explain the situation with facts and evidence. We are 500 people against one paid individual and his friends with political motivation. And how he knows I am not a Bulgarian and my friends i.e. Bulgarian admins are not Bulgarians? Jingiby (talk) 20:57, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * Technically .--Bbb23 (talk) 18:00, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Please don't add a new account (Anitatod) without discussing it.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:25, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * OK! I have reverted myself. Jingiby (talk) 19:29, 7 December 2017 (UTC)


 * TishoYanchev has been blocked for unrelated reasons. Regarding Anitatod, the evidence is simply insufficient to warrant any action. Closing. Sro23 (talk) 17:43, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Similar ES in Russian reverting to change of prior socks + insult. CHRISSY MAD ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  17:03, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * ...calling users who revert them terrorists. Same exact ES summary previously used by socks a few weeks ago. CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  18:01, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * Hmm I can't help you here. I wonder if can--plus there is the suspicion that they were chatting on Jimbo's talk page via open proxy, IP 2001:AC8:23:A:303:200:0:18B4. I don't have much of an opinion on this, but I believe User:My name is not dave may. Drmies (talk) 17:49, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Вот болгарский язык, а не русский. Nonetheless putting into Google Translate it comes out as "Removed restitutions of Macedonian Pomaks". The ting goes qqquack.... ! dave  17:56, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Update: now a nice comment about Jingiby, their favourite person to pick on. ! dave  18:00, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, "A course for the Macedonian smoker-terrorist"! Drmies (talk) 18:43, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The account is, with a slight nudge toward .--Bbb23 (talk) 18:04, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Quack quack quack quack quack. Blocked. Closing. – filelakeshoe (t / c) <big style="font-family: webdings;">&#xF0F6; 18:06, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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Personal attacks on edit-summary. Reverting also my edits, Jingiby (talk) 04:14, 12 December 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 04:14, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * blocked, closing. – filelakeshoe (t / c) <big style="font-family: webdings;">&#xF0F6; 09:12, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

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Reverting my edits selectively. Also per Google translater edit-summary means: Edited by Jingiby, a Macedonian Pomak and terrorist. Jingiby (talk) 04:28, 18 December 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 04:28, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * - . Please block the new sock indefinitely. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:41, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Sir Sputnik - ✅.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   05:06, 18 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Tagging and closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 05:31, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

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The same vandalism. Jingiby (talk) 14:48, 18 December 2017 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 14:48, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * . GABgab 15:58, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

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The old edit war about the origin of the Bulgars. From sock's edit summary: Reverted attempt to hide origin of Bulgars. Jingiby (talk) 10:42, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * . GABgab 15:29, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

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Obvious sock is obvious. Dunno what the norm is for these socks but is it worth a cu check for sleepers? CHRISSY MAD ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  17:06, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * - For sleepers. Thanks, GABgab 18:19, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ to other socks plus:
 * Blocked without tags.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:39, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * We're in no tags territory from here on out. Closing. GABgab 18:52, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Blocked without tags.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:39, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * We're in no tags territory from here on out. Closing. GABgab 18:52, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * We're in no tags territory from here on out. Closing. GABgab 18:52, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

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Reverting my edits with personal attacks in Bulgarian on the edit summary. Also the name of the sock is abusive and Racial slur, meaning a Turkish homosexual. Jingiby (talk) 09:48, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Personal attacks in Bulgarian again. Jingiby (talk) 10:40, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

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✅, blocked, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:35, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

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Reverting my edits with persistent personal attacks in Bulgarian on the edit summary. Also the name of the sock is abusive in Bulgarian and unacceptable. Jingiby (talk) 06:40, 5 March 2018 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 06:40, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

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 * Already blocked and tagged, nothing more to do. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:31, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

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Personal attaccks in Bulgarian on my talk page as Pomak, falsifier of Bulgarian history etc.Jingiby (talk) 10:23, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

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It has the same agenda: single purpose account aiming to change the main theory of the origin of the Bulgars from Turkic to Indo-European. Jingiby (talk) 17:08, 30 March 2018 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 17:08, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

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 * Blocked; closing. Favonian (talk) 17:19, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

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Promotion of the writings on Staykov on the article Bulgars' talk-page. Jingiby (talk) 16:28, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * With Talk:Bulgars semi-protected, no further action is necessary. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:30, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

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The IP has continued the promotion of the writings on Staykov on the article Bulgars' talk-page. After the page was protected again it turned to pushing its original thoughts to the article Kidarites, where the socks of Staykov are usually very active with the same statements and sources. Jingiby (talk) 05:01, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

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IP blocked. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:18, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

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Single purpose account active on the article Bulgars talk page. Its User name is a personal attack against me in Bulgarian. Jingiby (talk) 03:16, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

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Blocked two accounts. They restored commentary by previously blocked IP editor 83.81.213.111 who added a link to a Quora post by none other than Pavel Staikov. . clpo13(talk) 06:19, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

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Single Purpose Account active on article related to Bulgars history. Its User-name is a personal attack. Jingiby (talk) 18:34, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * Blocked for user name violation, but it is behaviorally similar to previous socks. clpo13(talk) 19:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

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Single purpose account aiming to change the information about the Bulgar language and claiming it was not Turkick, but Hunnic etc. It is posting the information from the personal blog of Pavel Staykov, check here, please. Jingiby (talk) 18:45, 25 May 2018 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 18:45, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * Account blocked. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 19:20, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

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Its name is personal attack. Single Purpose Account active on Bulgars. Jingiby (talk) 09:35, 2 June 2018 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 09:35, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * Blocked; closing. Favonian (talk) 10:35, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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The edit-behavior is typical for him. Jingiby (talk) 17:31, 8 June 2018 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 17:31, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

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Found another one who's attacking the reporter:. theinstantmatrix (talk) 10:47, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * IP's rangeblocked. Closing case. Sro23 (talk) 00:53, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

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Suposed sock of User:PavelStaykov as usually has registered an inappropriate User:names meaning Gypsy in Bulgarian, but in pejorative sense and as an insult. It as usually starts its activity with an edit-war. It is Single Purpose Account aiming to put its POV in article related to Bulgars and to convince the community they were Huns and non-Turkick tribe. Jingiby (talk) 12:26, 23 June 2018 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 12:26, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * Account now blocked. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 14:04, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

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SPA active and pushing POV on articles related to Bulgars and Huns. Personal attacks on my talk page. Jingiby (talk) 07:56, 28 June 2018 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 07:56, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  16:31, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * - . Compare this to this edit by a sock from 2016 using the same journal as a source. Please indef the sock account. Sro23 (talk) 14:39, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ Jonita Davis is ✅ to . is ✅ but hasn't made any edits so they should be watched.
 * If the zero-edit account becomes active later on, it can be blocked. Closing. Sro23 (talk) 01:54, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

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Making the same fringe claims about the genetic origin of Bulgarians and Bulgars as multiple previous Staykov-socks (sample edit made by the latest named sock on that article, ). - Tom &#124; Thomas.W talk 22:47, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

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That is the account already confirmed in the archive. A newer check also shows to be ✅ as well. , . — Berean Hunter   (talk)  12:49, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Nothing more left to do. Closing now. Sro23 (talk) 20:24, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

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The same story: SPA attemting to "prove" Bulgars were not Turkic tribe and are identical to modern Bulgarians, Huns were Bulgars etc. Jingiby (talk) 19:12, 9 July 2018 (UTC)


 * The 2A07:* IP even tried to close this SPI-report... - Tom &#124; Thomas.W talk 12:10, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

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 * One IP is blocked and the other two are now inactive. Closing. Sro23 (talk) 01:03, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

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Personal attacks on my talk-page and on articles Terrorism and Pomaks, calling me Pomak. Reverting comments of other editors on the talk page of blocked sock of Staykov -User:Good bulgar. Jingiby (talk) 07:26, 14 August 2018 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 07:26, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * . GABgab 15:09, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

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The old story again. Bulgarians are closely related to Bulgars, that are not Turkic tribe etc. Standard copy-paste sentence and source as usually are put at the top. The IP makes intentional disruptions designed to illustrate a point Bulgarians are nor a Slavic people. Jingiby (talk) 19:01, 26 August 2018 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 19:01, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

And obviously for everyone is that Bulgarians are not only Slavic people, study carefully data here: : Slavic haplogroups are only 38% in modern Bulgarians(20% I2a and 18% R1a). So, what is the point of writing fake articles on WP ? 104.248.32.4 (talk) 20:53, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * IP is now blocked. Sro23 (talk) 21:51, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

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Recently single purpose account editing same articles as the sockmaster and removing/deleting/reverting any text or category relating the Bulgars and/or Bulgars' related tribes to the Turkic people. Jingiby (talk) 17:23, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * I'm requesting a CheckUser to check this, since edits are indeed similar - it's best to make sure that this isn't just someone mimicking them, as the edits aren't similar enough to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Kirbanzo (talk) 22:31, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * - The filter log is particularly suspicious here. Please check to confirm. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:43, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * .--Bbb23 (talk) 12:23, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I've blocked the sock based on the behavioural evidence. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:00, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

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As usually removing every text from articles related to the Bulgars' history and the origin of their separate tribes, claiming Turkic origin. Insisting they were Huns, that were not Turkic people etc. Edit-warring and refusing to discuss the issue on talk. Using the same text and sources: diff, as the vormer sock-puppets: diff. Jingiby (talk) 19:40, 4 November 2018 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 19:40, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Sock blocked. Sro23 (talk) 19:48, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

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Single purpose account repeating the old mantra about Bulgars, that were not Turckic people, but descendants of the Yuezhi, Massagetae, Huns etc. Misusing the same authors and sources as Edwin G. Pulleyblank, Yury Zuev, David Marshall Lang, Early Turks: ESSAYS on HISTORY and IDEOLOGY, SINO-PLATONIC PAPERS,  Specific conclusion marked everywhere as Yuezhi < Uechji < ngiwat-tie < uti. Writing edit summaries with capital letters: diff and diff, and using identical phrases on edit summaries as "Reverted an attempt to hide the true origin of Bulgars" : diff, diff, diff, etc. Jingiby (talk) 12:04, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Blocked. Sro23 (talk) 00:44, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

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SPA editing only article related to Bulgars' history. As usually denying their Turkic origin. Using often the term propaganda: here the new sock in the edit summary diff, and here comment of blocked sock: diff. Specific user name consisting from two parts: Jie and Duolo. Jie is the name of the Jie people, part of Yuezhi - one of the main points of his theory: another sock edit diff. And Duolo is his favorite topic Dulo, where his socks are especially active: diff; diff; diff. Jingiby (talk) 21:34, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Account now blocked, IP inactive. Closing. GABgab 18:27, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

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SPA aiming only to change the theory about the Turkic origins of the Bulgars, claimimg they were Huns. As usual, he first erases the sources and information he disagrees with, and then adds its own text and sources, which are usually the same: Encyclopedia Britannica online, as here, for example. Jingiby (talk) 20:40, 28 February 2019 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 20:40, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

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 * . GABgab 22:50, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

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SPA aiming only to change the idea about the Turkic origins of the Bulgars, claimimg they were Huns and Yuezhi. He has added its own text and sources on the talk of the Bulgars now, as many times before, which are usually the same: as for example: here; here; here, etc. Jingiby (talk) 10:26, 16 March 2019 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 10:26, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * Account now blocked. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 13:05, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

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SPA aiming only to change the idea about the Turkic origins of the Bulgars, claimimg they were indeed non-Turkic people. He has added its own text and sources on the article about Volga Bulgaria using as usual quotation from Encyclopedia Britannica: now, as before here, etc. Jingiby (talk) 18:26, 29 March 2019 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 18:26, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

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is /. . Like some previous socks, he is using a proxy. Anastacia Balova is apparently ❌.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:09, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

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It has been suspected since 2018. This IP has the same biased agenda of SPA, and is obvious sock of Pavel Staykov. Repeating of the same disruptive activity, similar writing and editing style and sources. His agenda on the articles related to Bulgars is as usually to claim Bulgars were not Turkic but were related mainly to the Huns, etc. Jingiby (talk) 05:20, 24 June 2019 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 05:20, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

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 * . GABgab 00:30, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

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Personal attacks on my talk page as usually. Provocative name. Blind reverts on every my edit etc. Jingiby (talk) 10:19, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * The user has been by . – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 12:10, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

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See edit filter log. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

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See edits on Kubrat. Similar. Beshogur (talk) 20:16, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * It appears this report was not filed properly, and as a result it never received any attention. Because the account in question is now stale, I'll go ahead and close this without any action. Mz7 (talk) 04:05, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

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The edits on Bulgars and other related topics like Bulgar language and Bulgar calendar seem very suggestive, as well as the general MO, going back to the socks on bgwiki a decade ago. <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— Luchesar • T/C 13:18, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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Most probably a new sock of PavelStaykov, attacking my talk-page. Jingiby (talk) 13:21, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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User:Vanya Ilcheva (talk) undated comment added 19:00, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi guys, don't know who that Pavel is but I researched why you connected me with him, I will disappoint mainly jingiby but this is not true. It will be a waste of time for me to continue trying to change that Bulgars article - I will focus my precious energy elsewhere, so rest assured I'll not touch it anymore, even thogh I deeply disagree with it as I do with other ones similar to it. I will also kindly ask you to remove the sockpuppet or puppetsock thing from my talk page as it defo looks ugly and raises negative thoughts. Thank you.--

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 * Looks not unlikely from behavioral evidence, though I do not know whether the check is technically possible.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:22, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Anything on my above comment? 00:42, 29 January 2021 (UTC) User:Vanya Ilcheva (talk)


 * Evidence is unconvincing. Given the user has volunteered to leave the article alone, I don't think there's much left to do. Closing. Sro23 (talk) 04:19, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

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It is obvious that this new editor has only one goal like Pavel Staykov, namely, to impose on Wikipedia the fringe thesis that the Bulgars were not Turks. This is also evident from the discussion he opened on the talk-page of the articles about the Bulgars. There he uses as Staykov and his puppets the only source - Britannica online. Check here and here, please. By the way, this thesis was also put forward on Britannica also by his puppets, who persuaded the scientific editors to correct the article. This was done on the basis of an extremely contradictory genetic study of Bulgarian scientists who publicly support this contradictory thesis too, i.e. based on political reasons. Jingiby (talk) 17:07, 17 July 2021 (UTC) Jingiby (talk) 17:07, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, at the moment I have not other evidences. Jingiby (talk) 15:16, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * - There's a ton of history to slog through. Could you point out some specific edits from previous (preferably confirmed) socks which demonstrate socking?  Lots of people have strong opinions about ethnic histories, so just sharing an opinion about Bulgars vs. Turks isn't enough to block on.  Special:Diff/1034056924 does hint at this not being a new account ("I have a concern about the Bulgars article for a long time now"), but they could just be somebody else who's been following the debate for a long time. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:49, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Closing case (without prejudice against re-filing) due to lack of evidence.  -- RoySmith (talk) 16:13, 6 August 2021 (UTC)