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IP sock 66.215.220.110 has been edit warring at First Epistle to Timothy for over 2 weeks now about the idea of consensus via changing "Most scholars" to something more specific like this edit on March 18. I joined the dispute by engaging in the discussion on the articles talk page "Most scholars say" is generally an unfounded claim with my response on March 22. After my message, the IP didn't edit Wikipedia until March 26. Before the IP began editing again, random IP 163.11.36.162 on March 24 changed "Most scholars" to "Groups of scholars". The suspected master User:PeacePeace was not only the first to change "Most scholars" to "some scholars" on January 30th, but also started the current discussion on January 30th complaining about the idea of "most scholars" being unsatisfying. The same discussion I engaged the IP 66.215.220.110. JudeccaXIII (talk) 00:49, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

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It's suspicious, but the two IP addresses geolocate to different parts of the US. It's possible the IP editors stumbled into an existing debate. I've warned the major combatants for edit warring and possible socking, as appropriate, and fully protected the two articles involved. If this doesn't solve the problem, we can try something else. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:21, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

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Checkuser may still be useful to discover potential sleeping or concurrent socks but considering that the old known account is stale and that other evidence is rather convincing I've not requested it. The likely sock was discovered by who has noticed these similar edits: PeacePeace vs FairNPOV. More evidence is the edit summary style, signature style, the statements posted at the top of their talk page and familiarity with Spanish (compare PeacePeace vs FairNPOV). — Paleo Neonate  – 10:15, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

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The original account (PeacePeace) was sitebanned on Sept 8, 2020. The suspected sock FairNPOV was created on Sept 9, 2020. They follow the same editing pattern over time - mostly religion and politics articles, posting editorials with rhetorical questions on talk pages accusing the article of POV ( compared to ), writing style, talk page commentary, edit summaries are all similar style. Butler Blog  (talk) 12:45, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * Yeah, it's a bit hard to believe that two different people would be interested in writing essays about theology on the talk page of an obscure Christian film. The talk page headers, this pair of edits , and another BEANSy thing I noticed clinch it. - please indef the sock. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 08:38, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 14:25, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

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Evidence is -

1. Signature encased in parenthesis, compare this PeacePeace-signed subsection with this AltheaCase-sined subsection.

2. Same narrow focus on biblical and Christian-themed articles (overlap at Talk:Progressive_dispensationalism).

3. Minor grammatical tweaking to the same section of Time War (Doctor Who), PeacePeace 2019, AltheaCase 2023.

4. AltheaCase account created 18:09, 11 January 2022. Sock FairNPOV's last edit was 17:33, 11 January 2022, blocked a day later.

Zaathras (talk) 05:46, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * Also, similar request on their TP for administrators to "please identify yourself as such" seems quite similar to PeacePeace's same request .  Butler Blog   (talk) 14:32, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Both users have an issue with the term "fundamentalist" as a pejorative (AltheaCase) or a slur (PeacePeace)  (note edit summary in this diff)   Butler Blog   (talk) 15:13, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Related to #2 in Zaathras's filing above, both accounts have knowledge/interest in Trinity Evangelical Divinity School from the late 60s. PeacePeace mentioned speaking to Robert Culver "after class" (note that Culver taught at Trinity from 1963-1974):, while AltheaCase specifically mentions Kenneth Barker on faculty at Trinity 1967-69: .   Butler Blog   (talk) 16:41, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * . Thanks for the clear presentation of evidence. Spicy (talk) 10:32, 16 November 2023 (UTC)