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24 May 2014

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On, new account was created mid-edit war and has only been used to continue the same edit war. User pages are also similarly formatted, so these accounts are pretty clearly related. VQuakr (talk) 17:19, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

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FALSE CLAIMS OF SOCKPUPPETRY TO REMOVE IMPORTANT AND HISTORICAL CONTENT I am a new user to Wikipedia, but an avid Wikipedia reader. I read on the Email article page something very consistent with my research and readings on the Spelling section, which had this content, very well cited by Peter Mclaren: The first known use of the term “email”, upper case or lower case, was in 1978 at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey (UMDNJ) to name a computer program which was the first full-scale electronic version of the interoffice, inter-organizational mail system, as confirmed by noted linguist Noam Chomsky and further substantiated by dictionaries, which also concur that only after 1978 did the term come into use.[9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20]

Relative to this on the Main Page of the Email article I was posting the following subsequent to this, as I believe that pre-1978, when the term "email", did not exist, that there was a confusion on what "Electronic Mail" itself was, as it was applied to fax and even telegraph. It's only after 1978 that the notion of email as the system appears. To this end I was in the midst of adding this content:

Prior to 1978, the terms “electronic mail” and “electronic messaging” were used interchangeably to refer to generic methods of transmitting electronic documents such as faxes or electronic text messages. Noam Chomsky, MIT Professor and linguist, clarified the difference between “email”, the system, and the more broader and generic terms “electronic mail” or “electronic messaging”, during a heated controversy that emerged after the February 16, 2012 acquisition by the Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of American History (NMAH) of the 1978 computer code, papers and artifacts, documenting the invention of email at UMDNJ.

During the controversy, David Crocker, a 32-year employee and consultant of Raytheon/BBN and 1970s ARPANET team member, claimed that “email” existed prior to 1978. Raytheon/BBN, a multi-billion dollar defense contractor, uses the logo of the “@” sign to define its brand image claiming it had invented email in the 1970s. David Crocker supported Raytheon/BBN’s claim by attempting to redefine the term “email” to refer to generic methods for the simple exchange of electronic text messages.

Noam Chomsky and other scholars presented a historical document authored by David Crocker in 1977, omitted by David Crocker’s in his 2012 arguments against the primacy of invention of email UMDNJ. In the December 1977 RAND Report, David Crocker, 35 years prior to the 2012 controversy, summarized the state of research in electronic messaging by stating:

“At this time, no attempt is being made to emulate a full-scale, inter-organizational mail system. The fact that the system is intended for use in various organizational contexts and by users of differing expertise makes it almost impossible to build a system which responds to all users’ needs."

Noam Chomsky, referring to the linguistic fact the term “email” did not exist before 1978, and given the admission by David Crocker of the lack of intent by ARPANET team to create the electronic version of the inter-organizational mail system, as late as December 1977, months before the creation of email at UMDNJ, concluded:

“Given the term email was not used prior to 1978, and there was no intention to emulate ‘…a full-scale, inter-organizational mail system,” as late as December 1977, there is no controversy here, except the one created by industry insiders, who have a vested interest.”

Mr. Tedickey however, kept deleting my content and Mclaren's content, without ANY reason, and in fact deleted the well documented and cited Spelling reference of McLaren's. AND, a sudden sockpuppet investigation took place stating I had multiple accounts. I just started using wiki pedia with my own new account, and had no idea what this meant. Then it disappeared.

THEN, I was asked to stop "edit warring" and use the talk page on the Email article by Versageek and VQuakr. I did do that process and brought back up the relevant issues on the Email article talk page. Tedickey again attempted to simply deny the citations and stated that dictionary references to the origin of the word "email" had no relevance, which made no sense at all. When did the OED become irrelevant. And after this interaction, I was again hit with a sockpuppet investigation.

We have fundamental issue here that the email article page is missing and which is now clearly reference: The term "email" did not exist before 1978 AND there was a clear confusion on what "electronic mail" was before 1978. This is the simply points I wanted to add my reference to, in addition to what Mclaren had posted.

What is the issue? And, why are people allowed to simply accuse people of multiple accounts and sockpuppetry, when they don't want to accept facts, as it did not fit their worldview, which may need to change? -TV TVleck1971 (talk) 21:15, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - King of  &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 09:52, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
 * - There is plenty of behavior similarity, but given that they claim to be from different continents on their userpages, I'd like CU to make sure. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:39, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Both accounts appear to be ❌. - Mailer Diablo 18:19, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Closing. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 20:44, 28 May 2014 (UTC)