Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Pigly3/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
I stumbled into this because of this odd post by Feeglgeef to an administrator's Talk page. I then reviewed the user's edits and noticed the following: (1) The account was only a few days old; (2) they had already amassed well over 200 edits; (3) within a few edits, they were working on counter-vandalism; (4) Starting December 28, they were messing around with their userpage and userboxes; (5) Also on the 28th they created common.js in their userspace; (6) Also on the 28th, they started using Ultraviolet for counter-vandalism; and (7) their first edits were to York Community High School, which is part of the Elmhurst Community Unit School District 205.

Now we get to the master who was created last May and their characteristics: (1) They immediately started counter-vandalism on May 14, but after two edits on that day, they didn't edit again until December 6, at which point they made one edit, and then recommenced on May 27; (2) on Dcember 28 they started messing with their userpage and userboxes; (3) also on December 28 they created common.js; (4) also on the 28th they started using Ultraviolet; and (5) their sandbox has to do with the Elmhurst Community Unit School District 205, and they have directly edited that article.

Some addition similarities not already noted: (1) the two accounts intersected on only one article: Vrats dasht, in which Pigly3 reverted an IP's edit, followed 3 minutes later by Feeglgeef who reverted further back, followed by Feeglgeef leaving a message on Pigly3's Talk page, which Feeglgeef then removed; and (2) a strange converstion between Feeglgeef at User talk:Muboshgu's Talk page about a revert Feeglgeef made at Trump fake electors plot: Feeglgeef opened the dialog saying that they didn't think the reverted edit was vandalism but a "very disruptive" "opinion" and that we should accept good faith - Muboshgu disagrees, essentially saying (correctly) that it is vandalism and we should not accept good faith - then Pigly3 jumps in supporting Feeglgeef; and (3) Feeglgeef recently created a userbox of a pig.

Finally, a piece of fun trivia: Feeglgeef's user name is a palindrome. I have no idea if that means anything at all.

I am requesting CU to confirm. Bbb23 (talk) 14:36, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users
Pigly3 is my real-life friend. He usually wakes up at about 13:00 UTC, so it would be better if could talk about this together then. I sent him the Trump fake electors plot thing and asked him for his honest opinion. The Vrats dasht happened as we both were on Special:RecentChanges and saw the same thing. I noticed his mistake and fixed it for him. We might have been on a Discord call at this time, I am not sure. Feeglgeef (talk) 04:40, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The userbox was for his page. I made it because he requested it, and he uses it. Even if we were the same person, only the argument about Trump fake electors plot is abuse according to Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance Feeglgeef (talk) 06:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * . Similar geolocation of a large country, but not much else is similar from CU evidence. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:54, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * - I've asked the users to comment here. Spicy (talk) 04:23, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for commenting, . You've more or less confirmed what I was thinking based on the technical data. I would suggest that going forward, you and declare your relationship to each other on your userpages, and avoid appearing to "back each other up" in discussions such as the one on Muboshgu's talk page. Policy states that Closely connected users may be considered a single user for Wikipedia's purposes if they edit with the same objectives. When editing the same articles, participating in the same community discussion, or supporting each other in any sort of dispute, closely related accounts should disclose the connection and observe relevant policies such as edit warring as if they were a single account. If they do not wish to disclose the connection, they should avoid editing in the same areas, particularly on controversial topics. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 17:11, 31 December 2023 (UTC)