Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Pirjhando/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
User:Pirjhando created Syed Ahsanullah Shah Rashdi on 29 May 2021 which was A7 deleted. They have also disclosed COI by mistake on the edit summary im also member of Sayed rashdi pir jhando family and on their talk page twice. During that time, User:Pirjhando has used, , and  as sources for all the articles they tried to create/edit.

User:Pirjhando evaded block by editing with an IP 182.190.223.187 Contributions

Similar additions citing similar sources as above were done by CyberSpace192 - diff

AntiMishandlingBot has edits only on Pir Jhando - Registration date	2023-11-23 09:32

ProfSulaimanKhi was active from 10:01, 23 November 2023 till 10:38, 23 November 2023 and has only edited Pir Jhando. Registration date - 2023-11-23 10:00

SaneFlint was active from 10:51, 23 November 2023 till now. Registration date - 2023-11-23 10:49

SaneFlint has created the previously A7 deleted Sayyid Ihsanullah Shah Rashdi with a different spelling through AfC which is now part of an AfD for notability. SaneFlint created the article with the same sources used by User:Pirjhando as mentioned above. They have denied using previous accounts on their talk page and has also denied any COI with Sayyid Ihsanullah Shah Rashdi.

Behavioral evidence - User:Pirjhando, CyberSpace192 and SaneFlint are not familiar with English and have a similar way of conversing. It can be seen in their talk page conversations and edit summaries. Jeraxmoira (talk) 20:36, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


 * SaneFlint indicates here that I may not recieve replies in logged account. Which proves they have had previous accounts. Jeraxmoira (talk) 20:49, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Adding more diffs for clarity from the discussion here.
 * Interaction Timeline - vs
 * The Registration date of AntiMishandlingBot, ProfSulaimanKhi and SaneFlint. Not really a coincidence when it's 30 minutes apart.
 * User talk:ProfSulaimanKhi vs Draft of SaneFlint  (8 Minutes apart).
 * Similar IP (noting the first 6 digits are the same) of SaneFlint removing the signature of User talk:ProfSulaimanKhi
 * 182.190.217.166 - Adding "Sayyid Ihsanullah Rashdi" at Ubaidullah Sindhi vs Same line rephrased by SaneFlint  Interaction Timeline (Note that IP edit and account is 8 months apart)
 * SaneFlint & User:Pirjhando communicate in a similar way on their talk page.Jeraxmoira (talk) 15:49, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Pinging an active CU & admin, Ferret & UtherSRG, as SaneFlint has created another article and it's on AfD as well. Jeraxmoira (talk) 15:59, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Is there a confirmation on group 1 being connected to User:Pirjhando? apart from the Behavioral evidence, User:SaneFlint has used the same sources Pirjhando used to create Sayyid Ihsanullah Shah Rashdi that was A7 deleted previously. Though I can see there is COI present, confirming group 1 to User:Pirjhando will further prove the same as User:SaneFlint denied COI in their talk page. Jeraxmoira (talk) 07:22, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Group 1 is ✅ to each other: Group 2 is ✅ to each other:  There is clear meatpuppetry in the data (not just behavior) between groups 1 and 2, if not actual sockpuppetry (two different devices). Group 3 is   but I saw some suggestion to indicate group 2 is connected to Pirjhando directly. No comment on the IPs. Izno (talk) 06:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * There is no "confirmation" for either group, at best the whisper of one in group 2. Izno (talk) 19:14, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Blocked the confirmed groups. Probably should have tags but someone needs to decide on the appropriate master. Izno (talk) 06:47, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I've tagged the two groups confirmed to each other as appropriate and their masters suspected to here. Izno (talk) 21:55, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
A SPA who is voting on AfDs from their 4th edit and has no other contributions. Timelines coincide with actions by User:SaneFlint on 17th Dec. CU may not return anything as the master has enough knowledge about how a CU works now. Clear Meatpuppetry per the vote on Articles for deletion/Sayyid Ihsanullah Shah Rashdi,. Jeraxmoira (talk) 13:28, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * As above, the technical data clearly supports close coordination, if not outright socking. The difference doesn't matter here; blocked. --Blablubbs (talk) 19:05, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Tagging as suspected to master and closing. Izno (talk) 21:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)