Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Princek2019/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
Likely to each other per Girth Summit at Sockpuppet investigations/TheGrandSon. The SandDoctor Talk 23:39, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * closing. The SandDoctor  Talk 23:40, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
New editor suddenly found Fela Akinse, subject of this group of editors with similarly low quality/UPE sources Star   Mississippi  13:37, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * - user name pattern, timing between last block and signup, edit tags, topic overlap, and timecards, make it almost a duck. Still endorsing for a sleeper check. MarioGom (talk) 21:39, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd probably put this into territory, from a technical perspective. It's coming from a different (but nearby) country, and using a different UA. Could be another UPE outfit obviously, or some MEAT going on - .   Girth Summit  (blether)  23:03, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It would be interesting to look at a possible relation to Sockpuppet investigations/Arikogbon through afrikpage.com usage (, compare to ). Given the CU result, I'm second-guessing my initial assessment. Meatpuppetry looks very likely though. I'll leave this open for a second opinion, or maybe to get further evidence from new activity. MarioGom (talk) 12:10, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Since Fela Akinse is gone and the user has not edited in a while, I'm . Feel free to report again if there is new evidence. Thank you. MarioGom (talk) 21:06, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Created a new Draft:Fela Akinse. Huge edit gap 2010 to 2023, suspect an activated sleeper. No substantial edits outside Akinse. CU for these reasons, please. There may be more. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:25, 28 August 2023 (UTC)


 * The usernames appear to be of a similar pattern to several in this master's archive. While I'm not sure that is significant, I can hear distant quacking. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:45, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

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 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.  My name is Fela Akinse, I actually paid Princek2019 that you blocked and after I read the rules I asked my friend Bruce to create it for me and should declear a COI on the draft to comply with the policy, which he actually did on the talk page of the draft immediately he created it. He is not in anyway connected to the later, I asked him to respond by defending himself only to be told he can't edit but was blocked and he is not a Wikipedia active editor it was when I spoke to him he then used the one he created years ago. Would also like to asked a question for clearity, can't one create a page about himself but from the rules is possible once the person is presume notable.Heywet23 (talk) 14:46, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Mr. Akinse, the issue is per Articles for deletion/Fela Akinse you are not sufficiently notable. Continued creation of extra accounts and paying folks to recreate articles which have been deleted won't get you over that barrier. Please read the policies around socking and Paid editing to get more familiar. You'll need to better screen editors you hire if you continue down the road, but I suggest that you don't.  Star   Mississippi  15:10, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I have seen the discussion, but I have a valid reason why I might be notable because I have read the rules of notability and seen I pass them, I can provide source if you want to prove my point. But on my friend, he wasn't paid but only did it base on my request, I guess he didn't do anything wrong base on the policy.Heywet23 (talk) 15:20, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to submit a draft, but four different editors assessed the recent one and consensus remains unchanged. Biographic notability is a higher bar here than might be expected. If you are notable, someone wholly unconnected with you will choose to write about you.
 * You admitted yourself that you paid Prince, and now you say he wasn't paid. That's not going to help a draft about you be approved. Star   Mississippi  15:29, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I admitted Prince was paid but bruce wasn't paid, that the point I am trying to pass across. And he decleared a COI on the talk page of the draft you can check to confirm what I'm sayingHeywet23 (talk) 15:32, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * On my own article, won't it be best I defend myself on the notability because I know you all are neutral on your assertions once it proven.Heywet23 (talk) 15:34, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

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 * It's ; I also see some improper LOUTSOCK editing at sock-infested AfD discussions, which removes any doubts I had about whether we might be dealing with a good-faith actor. Blocking, tagging as suspected.  Girth Summit  (blether)  13:09, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Please refer to their own admission of being thoruoiughly involved with the sockpuppetry in the immediately prior case for this master. CU sleeper check 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 15:37, 29 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Is this in any way linked to TheGrandSon?
 * The articles about Fela Akinse suggest a linkage. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:12, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The articles about Fela Akinse suggest a linkage. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:12, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

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 * Based on the technical data, I am prepared to accept 's assertion that they are a different person from . I am not prepared to unblock Bruce954 however - as I said, I see improper logged out editing by them at an AfD discussion which was also heavily edited by socks (some of whom were suspected to be GermanKity/TheGrandSon. So, they can stay blocked. - my advice to you would be to stop trying to get an article about yourself written. Don't pay anyone to do it, don't ask your friends to do it - just leave it. This is a volunteer project, articles should be written by people who are not connected to their subjects.    Girth Summit  (blether)  11:27, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Draft:Fela Akinse is back again. CU revealed a number of linked socks, so requesting. Otherwise there is sufficient quackery to start a new stream of alternative medicine 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:03, 8 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I note from the archives that Heywet23 stated that they are Fela Akinse, and paid UPE editors to try to push the article upon Wikipedia. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Heywet23 I have no intention of reviewing this draft. I neither believe nor disbelieve you. I note that you have not adhered to the advice last time you were here given by @Girth Summit, now on the archive pages. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:00, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @MarioGom the editor has edited in the AfD and may yet come here to answer you question.
 * @Heywet23 you have a question to answer, below. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:05, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

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I am not in anyway lying that I am Fela Akinse and I know the rules never said I shouldn't create as long as I declear a COI or paid but since is me Fela Akinse creating it I guess is COI I will declear which I have already done. I want to plead for the draft to be allowed to be reviewed by other editor on neutral basis please.lets Love leads Heywet23 (talk) 12:53, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I am deeply sorry for that, but please let's the draft stay and for other editor if not you to review it, please. lets love leadsHeywet23 (talk) 13:06, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I have accepted the draft, but I think it only just passes the notability criteria. Other editors may disagree. I've left a message on your talk page.  Qcne  (talk)  14:56, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I really think this should go back to draft space. We should not reward repeated bad faith creations. Star   Mississippi  15:41, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Indeed - though I am not involved in this discussion and have no prior knowledge of the socking, so I reviewed it purely on the criteria and felt it just passed. But happy for someone to drafity it if they don't think it passes.  Qcne  (talk)  16:01, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * No issue with your acceptance, but opened Articles for deletion/Fela Akinse (2nd nomination) for some resolution in lieu of whack a sock. Star   Mississippi  16:08, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I am deeply sorry for any wrong actions I may I have committed out of ignorance, please forgive me, I have learnt my lessons. On issues of other account, I have explained my myself above. I dont have any account except this I just created this account, on Bruce he was just a friend who offered to help and on Prince, I actually initiated contact with him. Please forgive me, My kneels on the ground. Please.lets love leadsHeywet23 (talk) 16:03, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * - : Did you edit with other accounts? What is your relation to, and other accounts in this case? Best, MarioGom (talk) 14:47, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The article is deleted, and I think we can just accept the explanation here, which I interpret as COI and former customer of an undisclosed paid editor. . MarioGom (talk) 17:47, 20 October 2023 (UTC)