Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ProofRobust/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
New account created shortly after ProofRobust declared their intent to abandon their account and create a new one to avoid admin scrutiny (see Special:Diff/1128283466, Special:Diff/1128322012). The new account immediately launched into minor copyediting and antivandalism tasks that are not consistent with the knowledge level of a brand new user, and are consistent with ProofRobust's prior editing focuses and pace of editing (if not their use of semi-automated tools). The piece of evidence that is leading me to file an SPI check rather than just waiting for problematic behavior, however, is that the sole gap of more than 10 minutes between edits not preceding a non-minor edit in LeifHawthorne's history is between 17:45 and and 17:58 UTC, during which time ProofRobust has made their only edits since LeifHawthorne started editing (Special:Diff/1128367841 Special:Diff/1128368449). This seemed like a rather significant coincidence and I'd like a CU to take a look. signed,Rosguill talk 20:30, 19 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'm satisfied as far as the (non) link to ProofRobust is concerned, not sure what's going on with those other linked accounts. signed,Rosguill talk 21:03, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually, one other detail, what is the expected interaction of the partial-block against account creation and the IPBE that are currently both active on ProofRobust's account? Would they both be effective, or would the IPBE prevent the partial-block from preventing the creation of new accounts. signed,Rosguill talk 21:05, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * , gotcha, I'll experiment with a dummy account when I get some free time. My understanding is that if your hunch is correct, there isn't anything we could do about it anyway so it becomes moot. signed,Rosguill talk 21:25, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Comments by other users

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 * See my post on talk there, this is almost certainly Jordan Shapiro himself. IMO sanctions should take that into account. GordonGlottal (talk) 21:23, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I thought this was sort of thin (among other things, there's a 50 minute gap for Hawthorne starting at UTC 1700), but I did have concerns about both ProofRobust's stated intent to have an illegitimate clean start, and LeifHawthorne's editing pattern (unlikely to be new, rapid edits, all through the newcomer tool with the notable exception of Jordan Shapiro). Long story short: ProofRobust has IPBE for proxy use, but does not appear to be using one at present, and is ❌ to LH. LH however is ✅ to two other accounts that they're switching between:
 * There does indeed seem to be something odd going on with that group at Special:PageHistory/Jordan Shapiro. I'll leave it to an admin or clerk to evaluate appropriate sanctions. --Blablubbs (talk) 21:00, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Cf. Sockpuppet investigations/Technepoiesis.@Rosguill: I'm not 100% certain, but I don't think your current block is doing anything – ACB should prevent them from accessing Special:CreateAccount while logged in, but I don't think it will affect whether they can log out and make a new account. --Blablubbs (talk) 21:16, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Addendum, since "TempleStudent" mentions being in a dorm room, which can lead to shared IP situations: CU makes it fairly clear that these three are being operated from the same computer. --Blablubbs (talk) 21:29, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm going to close this. The Technepoeisis accounts can be handled at the other SPI. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 14:11, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Addendum, since "TempleStudent" mentions being in a dorm room, which can lead to shared IP situations: CU makes it fairly clear that these three are being operated from the same computer. --Blablubbs (talk) 21:29, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm going to close this. The Technepoeisis accounts can be handled at the other SPI. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 14:11, 20 December 2022 (UTC)