Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Quantum666/Archive

Evidence submitted by MarshallBagramyan
For some time now, I have been harboring suspicions that the rapid proliferation of so many editors on Wikipedia in the early summer of this year was a result of a case on the Russian Wikipedia which established that several editors were actively conspiring off-Wiki to coordinate the editing articles relating to Armenia and Azerbaijan. In the wake of that investigation, the administrators blocked and leveled other forms of punishment against more than two dozen editors. In the wake of the blocking, it was determined that Quantum666 was sockpuppeting with another account and was accordingly banned by the administrators. He has now showed up on English Wikipedia and while I am uncertain if there are any rules barring his participation, his editing activity has been followed by the addition of numerous other suspicious accounts which have displayed too great a knowledge of Wikipedia to be novice users.

The editors which I have highlighted above have been editing for some time but they have displayed such similar characteristics, in argumentative style, in grammar and spelling, in editing during the inactivity of a particular user (Quantum made many edits, for example, at a time when Tuscumbia was topic-banned), in making 10-12 edits on a single article in a single day, in the interest area, that it has led me to believe that they are all working in tandem, if not being controlled by a single user. They support each other by reverting one for the other and work in a way which is too suspiciously systematic. I apologize for the fact that I have essentially compiled these names together but I've had my doubts for several months now and it is only now that I have decided to act upon them to see if there is another case of inter-wiki coordination taking place. I would also like to apologize to the the other editors for bringing up their names here if the results prove inconclusive but I believe the intensity of this activity warrants a through investigation so we can be assured that the system is not being taken advantage of. Thank you. Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 19:55, 12 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I appreciate the sarcasm guys but this is just a formality. I'm happy that you are all taking it with such jest.


 * HelloAnnyong, I have to admit that my suspicions are primarily rooted in character analysis. There are far too many edits that have taken place over the past several months for me to pinpoint to any specific edits. Putting aside the similarities in grammar style, Quantum666, Tuscumbia, and Anastasia.Bukh all seem to employ a uniform style of argument in the article relating to the Nagorno Karabakh Conflict. There is an unfaltering tendency to present all the towns and provinces in the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic with their Azerbaijani names and an even greater proclivity to suppress any mention of their links to Armenia or Armenians. The editing activity of the above three editors almost leaves the impression that they are coordinating or are working in tandem, reverting to whatever version best fits their point view. This may be a result of an intersection of interests among all the parties concerned, but the activity certainly picked up in intensity following the wide-scale banning of Azerbaijani editors on the Russian-language Wikipedia in early July of this year. My suspicions are also grounded in the fact that Quantum666 was caught sockpuppeting on the Russian Wikipedia and topic-banned from articles related to Armenia and Azerbaijan. Following this ban, he formally created an account with the same name, and began editing alongside several newer accounts, including Anastasia.Bukh, who created his account in mid-July. I cannot say with full conviction that my assertions are correct but it would be reassuring to all of us to know that no one is abusing the system.


 * In regards to Kheo17 and Garapapag, I have to say that I regret including them in this report and not in a separate one. Kheo17 was heavily involved in the editing of the Khanate of Erevan article. He introduced several edits last week which were reverted, prompting him to counter-revert. In the many reverts that took place, a user by the name of Garapapag jumped out of nowhere, after more than 3 years of dormancy, and reverted the article to a version which would correspond to Kheo17's. This leads me to think that Garapapag is a sleeper account - as to who the individual who controls him, I cannot definitively say, but I reasoned that it may be perhaps linked to him since he showed up so quickly and has since disappeared. It's hard to say anything in this intense atmosphere.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 21:39, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The only suspicious accounts would be Kheo17 and Garapapag. The other users seems to have distinct personalities. Besides on the mailinglist on Russian wikipedia an English mailing list was mentioned. So those users could certainly be contacting with eachothers. With two dozens they do not need sockpuppets.


 * Compare this map with this one, the first was drafted from the second one. We find both maps in this article, the map by Kheo17 was uploaded by a Baki66 and attributed to a Baku87. When I checked that name Baku87, it was redirected to Neftchi. It was loaded before Kheo17 had an account. Here Kheo17 claims to be the author of that map. While the note left by Baki66 and the date indicate that the map which Kheo17 claims to be the author of, is the picture of Neftchi. When I have checked the last CU filed by MarshallBagramyan, which was on Neftchi page here, I was surprised to find out that Kheo17 was included twice. On the first it was concluded: Possible that Kheo17 is related to Neftchi, based on geographical proximity. The second was refused. The last requested CU included IPs which engaged in the talkpage of the controversial article created by Kheo17, they were in the exact same range as those having been associated to Neftchi by two administrator according to the filed report.


 * I was reported various time for a check, but evidences seems to point that Neftchi is using sockpuppets to make controversial edits. So Kheo17 as a possible sockpuppet, I believe Garapapag should be checked with them, after over three years of innactivity he came to revert for Kheo17. If others believe this should be posted at Neftchi CU page, feal free to move it. Magotteers (talk) 07:03, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

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 * You are just trying to accuse users who reverted your edits and this shows the real goal behind these accusations. There is no real evidences only speculation and conspiracies. Neftchi (talk) 01:34, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * And what to make of the IPs (which matched what two different administrator have linked with you) and your comment in Anastasia talkpage regarding asking his opinion when you never edited with this account in that article, then, neither its talkpage. Magotteers (talk) 01:44, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
MarshallBagramyan, all I can say is "Hahaha". Do you seriously believe I am a sockpuppet of Quantum666? :)) Please, for God's sake, please wake up. I've contributed to Wikipedia for 2 years and, unlike you, have created and expanded many articles. Moreover, when both of us got topic-banned for 3 months in late July 2010, I, unlike you, kept contributing to Wikipedia and created dozens of Romania, Pakistan, Russia, Uzbekistan, Iraq, Greece, Estonia, Monaco, Lesotho, Tunisia related articles while you completely stopped contributing and revitalized yourself only to edit war again. Your intent is obvious: you exist in Wikipedia to enforce Armenian agenda only, not to contribute to the encyclopedia. Tuscumbia ( talk ) 20:11, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

No comment for this joke ))) --Quantum666 (talk) 08:17, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Bagramyan, I am really surprised by your accusations. Yes, I am very interested in Azerbaijan-Armenia related topics. However, it does not mean that i am a sockpuppet of someone else. I started my serious contribution to Wikipedia about a year ago. I even don't know who Quantum666 is. I have never seen his/her edits in Wikipedia. moreover, besides the aforementioned topic, I am contributing to the football topics as well. If you look carefully you can notice the difference between the writing styles of those accused accounts and mine.--KHE&#39;O (talk) 16:34, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

What??? I think, I have maybe another suggestion for this reporting person. Maybe you should've reported all the other stale accounts and uh, you forgot to include all ip people. Thanks a bunch for making my day :-)  Anastasia Bukhantseva   19:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * This is a clear case of false accusations from MarshallBagramyan. Please also see the clerk note on the last commenting user on this page Magotteers who could be a possible sock of a blocked user Meowy: Sockpuppet investigations/Meowy. Tuscumbia  ( talk ) 14:50, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * How is that relevant in any way. You can accuse me of being other editors, I don't really care anymore. The test run was based on contributions in pages. But this has no value at all, given that any user contributing in one of those articles will be contributing in all of them if he is interested in the NK conflict. Pick any editors having edited Kars to revert the Georgian transliteration in the lead, that editor would be editing the other articles too. On the other hand Kheo17 has uploaded a picture which he claims holding the copyright and being his work, when that picture is attributed to Neftchi. Now how is Kheo17 going to respond to that? Magotteers (talk) 15:38, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It is relevant because you are a suspected sockpuppet account of a banned user and/or have been using sock accounts yourself, as you admitted yourself and at the same time you're here accusing others. That's how it's relevant. Tuscumbia  ( talk ) 15:49, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * That was not really socking, the previous account was not in any sort of restriction. Besides, the claimed test will link you with MarshalBagramian, even if both of you are at each side of the fence. I am not Meowy, a CU already confirmed that so unless you have hard evidence of that, file it at the right place not here. I am just observing here that there is a very strong evidence that Kheo17 and Neftchi are the same user and I have found more of that and will be supplementing. Magotteers (talk) 16:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You have no evidence only a conspiracy theory. And this comes from a user "Magotteers" who just joined wikipedia in November and already heavily involved in controversial Armenian-Azerbaijani matters. I suspect Magotteers is a sucketpuppet. Neftchi (talk) 01:44, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I know it wasn't but the fact that you are Ionidasz who used the same behavioral pattern as your current Magotteers account does and Meowy did before the block, and the fact that you tried to disassociate yourself from blocked disruptive user Andranikpasha under Magotteers account when you knew him as Ionidasz and the fact that you keep telling fairy tales when you jump in the heated debates under various accounts, and the fact you yourself admitted using sock accounts in AN says a lot about you. Finding out which blocked user you really are editing under various accounts is a matter of time. Tuscumbia  ( talk ) 16:56, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Like I said, if you think you have a case, go for it! Magotteers (talk) 17:00, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Magotteers, plz stop accusing people and try to contribute more by solid facts and sources! I worked on that map for 2 hours if you want to know. all copyrights are mine! If somebody uses it, he/she is welcome.. --KHE&#39;O (talk) 16:58, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Kheo17, take a look at the evidence again, that map was created even before your account existed by a user which was suspected to be you. Please explain that. Magotteers (talk) 17:02, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I took the map from the Azerbaijani Wikipedia. However, I almost changed it completely, because it was wrong map in my opinion. You can see the differences between two maps. I just needed a blank map to create my own one. --KHE&#39;O (talk) 17:08, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No, the maps are identical, is identical to this, except the one attributed to Neftchi was of higher resolution. Explain. Magotteers (talk) 17:13, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Firstly, I took the same map and used it for a short time. Meanwhile I was creating my own map based on this map. The map in English Wikipedia should be removed since it's useless now.--KHE&#39;O (talk) 20:42, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No! You claimed holding the copyright and claimed in the talkpage being its author, before the map was changed. There is no going around. Please explain that without turning around.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Magotteers (talk • contribs) 01:42, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * As far as I'm concerned, Kheo17 and Neftchi are indeed the same user. They have repeatedly intervened on the same subjects using similar language. See most recently http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Azerbaijani_Armed_Forces&action=history on procurement of helicopters. I removed material that Neftchi inserted and it was reinserted by Kheo17. Buckshot06

(talk) 21:08, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * That is just your own personal opinion, you have no proof or whatsoever. If you want you can do a IP check and get this over with. 01:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I really can't understand!!! It starts to be annoying! I found that information on helicopters from www.azadliq.org page which is in Azerbaijani. I did not look at the article history even when I entered it. Why nobody is inviting Neftchi here??? Invite him/her as well and let me know him/her plz...--KHE&#39;O (talk) 01:04, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Comments by other users
I am being accused for sockpuppetry and yet I was not even notified on this fact. Neftchi (talk) 01:37, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

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 * First off, I notified all the suspected sockpuppets of this case. But beyond that, I'm having a hard time seeing any real connections between these accounts. Could you maybe list some diffs that led you to such conclusions? —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 01:30, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Just because some people reverted your edits doesn't mean they're sockpuppet/meatpuppet. The evidences in English Wikipedia are extremely weak and borderlining coincidence. As for other evidences in Russian Wikipedia, there is nothing we could do in English Wikipedia (including CU) because this is too over-reaching and we cannot do CU for edits conducted outside of English Wikipedia. If you have any concerns, you should raise it in the appropriate venue in Russian Wikipedia. OhanaUnitedTalk page 00:16, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The English Wikipedia Checkusers can not run Checkuser on any other project. You may want to try your local project's Checkuser page, or the Checkuser page at Meta.  Nakon  02:34, 21 November 2010 (UTC)