Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Raikkonen/Archive

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User:Raikkonen and User:Hakkinen are evidently the same person. Both accounts are quite old, created in 2005, and have been used infrequently but with some regularity across all the years since then.

Evidence:
 * obviously similar naming pattern (both named after Finnish race car drivers)
 * created one day apart back in July 2005
 * first edit of Hakkinen is to Raikkonen's user talk
 * same profile of interests: matters of Greek history, with a focus on asserting Greek ethnic identity; mixed with some edits about software and IT technology
 * shared articles: Artemisia I of Caria, with very similar edits emphasizing "Greekness" ; Giorgio de Chirico, likewise

I would have taken it as just an instance of non-deceptive alternate accounts used by an old but infrequent user, but Raikkonen is now inexplicably denying the obvious and, at the same time, engaging in some pretty egregious tendentious editing on Talk:Arvanites, in a way quite similar to previous bouts on other articles done with the other account. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:13, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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If by "tendentious editing" one refers to "proposing an alternative phrasing", "asking for sources", and "trying to initiate constructive discussion", then I certainly am guilty of it. On a different note, it is obvious from the edit history that there is no case of sockpuppeting / malicious editing. There is a perfectly reasonable explanation for the connection of the two accounts but I refuse to answer to User:Future Perfect at Sunrise unless he accepts to apologize for having offended me repeatedly at both personal and ethnic level. An administrator who doesn't respect universal (not just wikipedian) policies such as WP:Civility and WP:AGF is not worthy of my time and if he chooses to ban me on the spot to prevent me from respectfully challenging his views then he has my blessings to do so. Raikkonen (talk) 11:35, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - I'm seeing similarities between the accounts, but I think CU would be useful to confirm a connection here, especially as the user is denying such a connection. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:18, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * To note, I think that it is plausible that these accounts are related, but I would like a CU to be run instead of blocking purely on behaviour. The evidence presented, the timings of when they edit and similarities in edit summaries suggests a connection to me. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:20, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I just admitted that there is a connection, I just didn't and still don't want to answer to a specific administrator who has been constantly offensive to me. This account initially belonged to and was used by a person I know. At some point he lost all interest on the English Wikipedia and instead of deleting the account he gave me access to it. I didn't want to see the account being deleted because I wanted to keep the ownership of the 'Hakkinen" nickname. I've only made a handful of edits in the recent years on that account only to keep it from being considered inactive and becoming disactivated or deleted. In my mind this is officially not my account, I'm just safekeeping it so I would appreciate not having it deleted. But if I have to state that it's an alternate account on my main page, that's fine. Also, if I'm told to never use it again and lose my access to it that's also fine, provided that it stays active. There has never been any malicious activity / sockpuppeting with this accounts so I believe that a ban would not be justified. Raikkonen (talk) 15:24, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Per the clear admittance from user above, CU isn't needed here. There have been several times where this account has overlapped on pages, and both accounts have time overlaps (i.e. have been editing at the same time). Due to the denial of use of undisclosed multiple accounts at when asked, I'm going to block both indef. They will need to address the issues presented here such why they didn't disclose the account / denied they were that user when asked and why it looks like it is an attempt to avoid scrutiny. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 16:34, 28 October 2020 (UTC)