Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Raju sutharr/Archive

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I know this is an old account but socking is socking and given the numerous attempts to spam themselves (see Raju Sutharr, now as Raju Jangid) and prior copyvios and communication issues, I see no resolution of those problems now. WikiPanti joined one day after the indef of Raju sutharr account by.

It is worth noting that Raju sutharr's block is not just a one off, they were blocked for sock puppetry on hiwiki, commons as well as here, see this account. See a longer list of accounts here. CUPIDICAE💕 15:54, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * See also this rename which was the hindi version of Raju Suthar - > Raju Jangid - > Raju Jangid in English to -> WikiPanti. CUPIDICAE💕  15:59, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Hello I am (User:WikiPanti)) today I feel very bad because my 6 year old account which I created on 22 January 2015 but today it has been put in investigation. While I have not done anything wrong with my this account.

I agree that all these accounts belonged to me, and also other Hindi Wikipedia community members is know about that, and I have been blocked many times over these accounts. In that 2 accounts of my brother. Because that time (2015) we had only one phone earlier and the information about the Wikipedia rules was absolutely zero. So all accounts were open in a single phone.

The reality is that at that time (before 2015), I don't know about Wikipedia, which page is notable and which is not notable. Due to lack of information, I repeatedly created pages, created accounts which were later blocked. After that I had created a User:WikiPanti account after getting all the information related to the Wikipedia Rules. When I was fully aware that there is only common people on Wikipedia and they make articles on notable people, things, places and etc. So after that I did not edit wrong even once.

If I talk about User:Auramstate, then this is not my account. I have seen that he has done some edits on Wikipedia about me. But this is not my account.--2409:4042:2E9E:3950:CDA5:39C0:F6A9:D9F8 (talk) 06:37, 24 February 2021 (UTC)


 * you created your wikiPanti account less than 24 hours after your block, so I don’t buy it.  CUPIDICAE💕  11:20, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I was not mature about wiki policies at that time and I apologize for my previous creations.--2409:4042:2E9E:3950:DD85:59CC:7E1B:28DF (talk) 16:41, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Comments by संजीव कुमार
As per my knowledge, he apologised on hiwiki for his mistake. I allowed him after his apology about his mistake. But I didn't saw any such mistake from him in last 5 years. I found a wikipage with his name and profile, but I didn't saw his editing in that page. So, if any other user is making such editing, he shouldn't be punished. I am not a big contributor on enwiki but I think he should not be blocked for the mistake which he did in his initial time, which is already over. &#9734;&#9733; Sanjeev Kumar   ( talk ) 16:25, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The problem is that *he* was editing with other accounts and IPs, not just socking on this account. CUPIDICAE💕  16:53, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Kindly refer me those accounts and IPs where you suspected socking. If you can't prove it, please don't blame me for the acts which I never committed. I have already said sorry for my mistakes.--2409:4042:2E9E:3950:E69:3F74:E0DF:FF33 (talk) 17:25, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Just look at your last edit, you're block and lock evading. CUPIDICAE💕  17:25, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hence my account is locked I should be given chance to prove myself innocent. I am just doing that. I am not trying to evade anything. I am just putting my point.--2409:4042:2E9E:3950:E69:3F74:E0DF:FF33 (talk) 17:55, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The fact that you don't understand that you're not permitted to edit is evidence enough that you should remain locked, but that isn't something that can be discussed here. CUPIDICAE💕  17:59, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * If there are few edits done by mistake (which are not promotional), should be ignored. If a large number of editing (excluding last 2 days, on talk pages) is done with IP by same user, please let us know. I am interested to know the reality, I shall not favour the user if enough evidence will be shown. But I am not in favour to block for mistakes done five years ago. I also agree that user should not answer each comment with IP's. &#9734;&#9733; Sanjeev Kumar   ( talk ) 03:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Comments by हिंदुस्थान वासी
As I was the patroller who was bringing his sockpuppets to attention in 2015. I should leave some clarification. At first he was trying to make article on himself. It is correct that after each blocking of account he creates new account and still make articles about himself. But after discussion with me and User:संजीव कुमार he stopped making new accounts and permanently settled on one of his account by his choosing. That matter was closed there. I do not think that case should be used after him now.--Hindust@niक्या करें? बातें! 07:49, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Except he did continue creating articles about himself and there is off-wiki evidence of some seriously questionable paid/spam editing. But as I noted below, he is globally locked, which has nothing to do with the English Wikipedia and cannot be appealed here. CUPIDICAE💕  18:44, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Comments by Abhinav619
It is very unfortunate that those who have brought glory to Wikipedia have been charged with accusations. Irrespective, Raju was and will remain an asset to Wikimedia Projects. I completely agree with Comments made by the two senior and experienced Hindi Wiki editors above. -Abhinav619 (talk) 18:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Just a note that this is not the place to have this discussion as he is subject to a global lock and that is not handled on English Wikipedia. CUPIDICAE💕  18:41, 25 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Tagged master and WikiPanti (per own admission), left Auramstate untagged. Closing. GeneralNotability (talk) 00:37, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Karam06 (You can find here like Raju Jingad and many more clients detaila) 45.118.105.26 (talk) 19:46, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Karam06#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Draft%3ARaju_Jangid 45.118.105.26 (talk) 19:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * Duplicate filing merged (Special:Diff/1009805640). If there is anything to this (haven't looked), this would have to be merged with Sockpuppet investigations/Raju sutharr. Blablubbs | talk 11:09, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and merged this under Raju sutharr since WikiPanti is tagged as a sock of that master. I took a look here, and I understand the suspicion because of the focus on an obscure person named Raju Jangid, see and the archive. However, from a technical standpoint, these accounts are ❌. What I suspect is happening is this Rahu Jangid person is attempting to recruit people to publish an article on his behalf, and Karam06 and Auramstate are just some of his "clients". I've gone ahead and left uw-paid1 on Karam06's talk page, and Auramstate is already locked globally. Closing without further action for now. Mz7 (talk) 01:58, 17 March 2021 (UTC)