Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rationalthinker1/Archive

13 April 2012

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Rational thinker made the nominating of Alfred Webre for afd his first edit, an unsigned edit by Wikisellout provides a latter similar followup, latter we get 2 IPs, and things change, 87.126.42.116 and 174.7.74.31 come in with an overwhelming support for the article followed by several new users all of whom express cult like adornment of the subject of the article, the AFD page and its associated talk page are filled with endless ranting, There must be relation to all these, Rationalthinker1 and Wikisellout are the only two to express concern for deletion, I feel the rest might be strawmen designed to make it seem as the opposing side is insane, or they might be unrelated or reversed meatpuppets, but it seems too coincidental to me, Egapdotme might be the master, I put rational thinker because he was the first spa on the list, but a checkuser can decide. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 22:41, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Strike TrexSwampy from the list as he most likely has nothing to do with the canvassing and is simply a new good faith contributor whom I confused with the prior SPAS. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 16:39, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Withdrawl Case - I the nominator formally withdrawl my accusations and drop this case. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 23:54, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Comments by other users
''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' Mr. Alfred Webre has thousands of friends on Facebook. I am one and also a personal friend. He mentioned on facebook that his page at Wikipedia might be deleted for not being relevant ? I went to Wikipedia, logged in and gave my opinion that his page should remain up at Wikipedia. Now I see that someone has suggested that there was some malicious intent or mindless babble in the comments. This appears to be harrassment to me, probably from the same person who has harrassed Mr. Webre and his friends (including me) on facebook. This is a political use of Wikipedia to continue the harrassment of Mr. Webre and his friends. I demand that this 'charge' of sockpuppetry be withdrawn: I have made one post in six years on Wikipedia stating my opinion on an article of interest to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monahawk (talk • contribs) 17:42, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

As I mentioned in my second email...at no time did Alfred Webre request that anyone visit the Wikipedia page to comment or give an opinion. My post edit at Wiki was my response to the article about online censorship at Wikipedia, Facebook, etc., and from all of this 'accusation' garbage, I'd say censorship just may describe it perfectly. I do not know anyone who posted on Mr. Webre's page and at no time was there any conversation about that on facebook or elsewhere. Therefore this does not really fit the criteria for meatpuppetry or sockpuppetry according to Wikipedia rules. I am once again requesting that my name be stricken from the list of the 'accused' and that the entire accusation post be removed completely from Wikipedia. Thanks in advance for your good judgement on this. Monahawk (talk) 20:44, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Monahawk has emailed me and confirmed that she and several others posted as a result of a comment on Alfred Webre's Facebook page, unaware that it is against our rules. I can't see a reason to run a CU - these comments look exactly like what she says they are. Recommend putting a note on the AfD that this is what has happened.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:03, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Recommend closing - given that the 'socks' are holding opposing viewpoints and the IP addresses are from all over the world.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:20, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Marking for close per Elen's comments and nominator withdrawal. TN X Man  18:20, 16 April 2012 (UTC)