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All accounts have edited the season articles of various football clubs. After the initial account was temporarily blocked a couple times for WP:CIR concerns, they started using socks to continue updating weekly results for the articles which the sockmaster created/frequently edited. The same unique editing style of RhodesAvenue has been used by the socks: using Flagicon for referees, using incorrect dashes, and commenting out the team's remaining fixtures (all seen here by the sockmaster and here, here, and here by socks). S.A. Julio (talk) 21:14, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

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This case was created at my recommendation. Up to now, the master's Talk page has been used to "record" the newly blocked accounts. From now on, when needed, this case may be reopened if there are new suspected socks. All the accounts are blocked I believe and tagged (the clerk should check before archiving). Nothing more to do here except thank the filer. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:39, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

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Edits here and here matches the aforementioned editing style of RhodesAvenue. S.A. Julio (talk) 19:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

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✅, blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:04, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

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Edit here matches the editing style of RhodesAvenue, and the user's edits are on two articles RhodesAvenue previously worked on. S.A. Julio (talk) 17:13, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

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 * - This looks likely to be the same person. Please check to confirm and identify potential sleepers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:05, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅, blocked and tagged. No other accounts seen. This master does not normally create sleepers or other accounts at the same time. He is a serial sockmaster, creating one and then not creating the next until the one he's using is blocked. In the future, if the behavioral connection is persuasive, the account should just be blocked without requesting/endorsing a CU. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:42, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

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Edit here matches the editing style of RhodesAvenue, on an article RhodesAvenue previously created and frequently edited (along with their socks). S.A. Julio (talk) 17:07, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

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 * - . Please block the new sock indefinitely. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:50, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ and closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  20:48, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

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Edits match the style of RhodesAvenue (example: here and here), on articled RhodesAvenue previously created and frequently edited (along with their socks). S.A. Julio (talk) 15:13, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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✅, blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:48, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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Edits match the style of RhodesAvenue on articles RhodesAvenue frequently edited (along with their socks), and WP:SIMNAME (four previous socks included '1990'). S.A. Julio (talk) 16:43, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * ✅, blocked, tagged, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 19:38, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

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Edits match the style of RhodesAvenue on articles RhodesAvenue previously edited (along with their socks), and WP:SIMNAME (six previous socks included '1990', also similar name to the sock ). S.A. Julio (talk) 10:51, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  14:33, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * and are ✅ to  and other socks in the archive..
 * Nothing left. Closing. Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 18:27, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

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Um...quack? See last blocked username and the normal contribs... Praxidicae (talk) 15:52, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

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 * May be worth noting that was also blocked indefinitely as a suspected sock of RhodesAvenue (didn't see this mentioned elsewhere). S.A. Julio (talk) 16:19, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

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 * The account is now blocked. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 01:25, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK applies, as edits match the style/formatting of RhodesAvenue in football club season articles, and WP:SIMNAME (two previous socks included 'Apple', two included 'TBJ' while another two included 'TJ'). S.A. Julio (talk) 22:09, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Pictogram resolved.svg All sock blocked and tagged. Closing case. . Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:35, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK applies, as edits match the style/formatting of RhodesAvenue in football club season articles, and WP:SIMNAME (eleven previous socks included '1990'). Both users have edited many of the same pages, including 2019–20 VfL Wolfsburg (women) season and 2019–20 FK Partizani Tirana season. S.A. Julio (talk) 19:06, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

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 * (they match the characteristic "flag icon for referee" and "wrong dashes" mentioned in the archives), . GeneralNotability (talk) 20:09, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK applies, as edits match the style/formatting of RhodesAvenue (uses flag icon for referee and wrong dashes) in football club season articles, and WP:SIMNAME (17 previous socks included '90'). The account was created less than two days after the previous sock was blocked. Both users have edited many of the same pages, including 2020 Cerezo Osaka season, 2020–21 Debreceni VSC season, 2020 Tromsø IL season and 2020 Lillestrøm SK season (the last two of which the previous sock created). S.A. Julio (talk) 23:47, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * - Extremely clear behavioural similarity, and editing the same niche articles. Marking for close.  ~  mazca  talk 18:16, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

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I'm not familiar with WP:SPI so I hope I'm doing this right, but here goes. WP:DUCK applies here as this user shares many of the characteristic traits of this prolific sockpuppeteer's editing, such as flagicons for referees and frequently using the wrong dashes, such as here, and the commenting out of remaining fixtures as seen here. The editor also edits within the same niche as all the previous sockpuppets (football club season articles). WP:SIMNAME applies as previous sockpuppets have also included 'CFC'. Also, this account was created 19 days after the previous sockpuppet was blocked. Microwave Anarchist (talk) 20:57, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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 * this is the penultimate edit from the sockmaster prior to their block, whilst this and this are edits from the most recent sock, and this, this and this are edits from CFC1397. All of the edits for both CFC1397 and the sockmaster and previous sockpuppets are ithin the very narrow niche of club season articles. They all use the same football box collapsible format, whilst the characteristic flagicons for referees, use of incorrect dashes and commenting out of remaining fixtures are all present. Microwave Anarchist (talk) 17:16, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

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 * , GeneralNotability (talk) 01:11, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * From the diffs alone, it's hard to tell if this is a sock or just somebody with a shared interest, but there's enough other WP:BEANS technical clues to back that up. Blocked and tagged. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:09, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

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Their edits are very similar to the edits made by the CFC1397 account that were used recently. Also, the current account was created just two days after CFC1397 was blocked. Sakiv (talk) 19:27, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

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 * There's no doubt that CFC1397 and Tom111290 are the same person, but as noted in 13 April 2021, I'm not quite so sure that they're the same person as RhodesAvenue. Still, socking either way. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:30, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK applies (incorrect use of dashes and flagicons for referees -, , ) and WP:SIMNAME applies - 18 previous socks included '90' and multiple others have included 'TBJ', or 'TJ', which would presumably be the sockmaster's initials. Both this account and the previous socks edits almost exclusively within the same niche and they have edited many of the same articles. The account has existed since October 2020, shortly after was blocked, but has only been editing regularly since 19 July 2021, the day after, the last sock, was blocked. Microwave Anarchist (talk) 17:18, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * -- RoySmith (talk) 23:10, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

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As with previous socks, he has mainly edited the football season articles, and his edits often contravene agreed guidelines, such as the massive addition of flags to templates, the incorrect use of dashes, and so on. The account was created immediately after the last sock was blocked in August 2021. Sakiv (talk) 22:45, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * Considering the username (compare, , , etc.), the fact that this account was created two days after was blocked, and the similar edits , this looks pretty obvious.  - please indef the sock. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 13:37, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocked per request (no tag). Bbb23 (talk) 14:08, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks - tagged as suspected, closing. Spicy (talk) 14:14, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

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Quack. Account created shortly after master blocked. Both are SPAs on soccer articles and Naked News. Both exhibit similar creation of hopeless drafts (see Draft:2023 Shonan Bellmare season for example). Mickaion1990 restored   unsourced and apparently incorrect edit originally made by master. Mickaion1990 deleted AFD from draft started by master. Meters (talk) 22:16, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, tagged, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 22:48, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

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Same tendentious editing and CIR/communication issues. Same SPA focus on football (soccer) articles, with editing overlap at Draft:2023 Pan American Games closing ceremony/2023 Pan American Games closing ceremony, Draft:2022 Asian Games closing ceremony, and five others. Precocious editing, including update of edit filter FP ten days after account creation. Recreation of 2024 Suwon JS Cup, 2024 EAFF E-1 Football Championship, and 2023 Pan American Games opening ceremony. Wikishovel (talk) 18:48, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * Without knowing of the existence of this sockpuppet investigation, I have been comparing the editing histories of these two accounts, and I had just decided that the evidence was enough to make the case certain beyond all reasonable doubt, when I found this SPI. Naturally I shall block the sockpuppet, and delelte/revert some of the unconstructive stuff it has done. JBW (talk) 20:29, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you, @JBW speedy-close Articles for deletion/2024 EAFF E-1 Football Championship (2nd nomination)? Nfitz (talk) 21:00, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ JBW (talk) 21:35, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

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Yoshi has made multiple attempts to submit Draft:2022 Asian Games closing ceremony without adding any sources ever. This draft was created by the sockmaster KimSumi21 (who I believe also created the now deleted mainspace version of this draft) and has also been edited by Simonen1998, another KimSumi21 sock. Edits of just submitting without improving make it seem like a WP:DUCK, but would be good to check for sleepers. Particularly, Simonen:, Yoshi: Joseph2302 (talk) 13:13, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * I would be inclined to agree, with the focus on soccer articles and has same patterns of the previous sockpuppet, Simonen1998, with focus on one of the same articles. Seawolf35 (talk) 14:07, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * Courcelles (talk) 15:28, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Given the behavior, this is a certainty. Blocked and tagged. Courcelles (talk) 15:29, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

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JuanJose1994 was registered yesterday, and for a 'new' account knows a lot of tricks, while also somehow managing at the same time to be pretty incompetent. They have a penchant for basketball and AsiaPac 2023-24 seasonal stuff, and a couple of their first edits were to J.League World Challenge where an earlier sock from this farm (Simonen1998) edited, too. The username is also similar to the previous socks, as in NameYYYY. I realise none of that is exactly a smoking gun, but does it warrant looking into at least? --DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:22, 17 October 2023 (UTC) DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:22, 17 October 2023 (UTC)


 * JuanJose is now blocked per Sockpuppet investigations/Sportsik1998. Are the two cases connected, or was this KimSumi one a false lead? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:57, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Looking at usernames of the socks, I think they could be the same person (as Simonen1998, a sock of KimSumi21, also used 1998 in their name, which is similar in name to Sportsik1998, and most of the socks have had years in their name). are you able to work out whether these cases are connected, and if so, merge them? Joseph2302 (talk) 08:09, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * Comment I also notice this user has 1994 in their username, as did the last sock Yoshi1994. And they're creating/submitting almost empty drafts for future sports events, which Yoshi1994 was also doing. Also, both Simonen and JuanJose1994 have added the same unsourced information relating to 2024 event of the J.League World Challenge, see Simonen, JuanJose. I would therefore be surprised if this isn't the same user. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:52, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * JuanJose1994 is already blocked as a CheckUser confirmed sockpuppet of Sportsik1998 (see Sockpuppet investigations/Sportsik1998) who, from comparison of editing histories of the various accounts, is clearly the same person as KimSumi21. Can a clerk please merge the two cases? JBW (talk) 09:44, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

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Same behaviour in edits and account created a few days after master blocked. Recreation of Draft:Table tennis at the 2023 Pacific Games (deleted with similar from this) and identical edits to J.League World Challenge. Also both added false claims to there user pages. KylieTastic (talk) 19:45, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

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I also find it suspicious that the majority of both accounts editing was early utc hours. Additionally their names are quite similar based on similar numbers in their username. Nagol0929 (talk) 22:05, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * ✅ blocked. Mkdw  talk 05:43, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * This is obviously the same person as Simonen1998, already blocked as a sockpuppet of KimSumi21: see Sockpuppet investigations/KimSumi21. Can a clerk merge this report to that SPI? JBW (talk) 09:40, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 14:56, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

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Same edits as JuanJose1994 (a sock of KimSumi21) on J.League World Challenge: JJ94, RS90. Combined with random 90s number in username, seems like a WP:DUCK to me. Joseph<b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 09:38, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * Could we also protect J.League World Challenge, as that seems to be a favourite target article for their socks? <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 09:40, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * ✅ Izno (talk) 18:08, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

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This new user has recreated several pages/redirects that have been previously deleted as creations of the sock, namely Boxing at the 2023 Pacific Games, Miss International 2024 and 2024 UEFA–CONMEBOL Club Challenge, and has also recreated 2024 Maurice Revello Tournament made by another sock. They have also edited pages associated with previous socks such as at 2024 Inter Miami CF season and Simonen1998 again at Mayor Quimby. The Night Watch    (talk)   15:14, 28 November 2023 (UTC)   The Night Watch     (talk)   15:14, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * Looks like a WP:DUCK to me, also lots of the other socks have used similar numbers in their usernames (some jave previously used 1994 too). <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 16:28, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The WP:DUCK behavior of Ronaldinho94 was noticed independently by another editor at User talk:Novem Linguae. Watchlisting. If confirmed, may want to do a WP:NUKE to discourage further editing. – Novem Linguae (talk) 19:22, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Creating the same speculative, unfounded nonsense, e.g. 2024 EAFF E-1 Football Championship Edward-Woodrow (talk) 00:37, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Accidentally dual-reported by me below. . I've made some edits accordingly. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 02:19, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * , with further evidence as well as that mentioned above. I have blocked the account, deleted all the pages created except one where another editor has made a fairly significant contribution, and rolled back recent edits. I shall tag the account. I'm not sure about the Checkuser request. CU isn't needed to confirm this sockpuppet, and history suggests sleepers are very unlikely, as the usual practice is to start using each new account within a few minutes of creating it. On the other hand, since some sockpuppets have been able to edit for quite a while before being found, there may be a point in a CU for possible active but undetected socks. JBW (talk) 11:41, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Already blocked. Case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:37, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

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Similar username, edits on same topics, posts similar one-word-questions at the AfC HD (see here. Asking for CU in case there are more of these, or they link to an older master. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:07, 6 February 2024 (UTC)


 * PS: I wonder if this Sockpuppet investigations/RhodesAvenue/Archive might be linked? Several socks there have names ending in 1990, and at least some similarity in areas of interest (football etc.) although I didn't dig too much. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:24, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, the KimSumi21 farm looks also a good fit. Should have remembered that one. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * Sockpuppet investigations/KimSumi21/Archive. Investigating. Courcelles (talk) 15:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Juanese is confirmed to Yoshi1994, who is the SPI I listed above. Also in that batch is and.
 * Francis is a direct match to and  which is tagged to KimSumi.  So it means this all ties neatly into a bow and is ready for the case to be moved. Courcelles (talk) 15:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Blocked everyone. Moving through workflow for clerk attention so that the case can be moved and proper taggings. Courcelles (talk) 15:58, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * - Please at a minimum move the case over and tag new socks. Also decide if we have two SPI's for the same sockmaster? Courcelles (talk) 15:59, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * all KimSumi21 accounts are DUCKy enough to RhodesAvenue that I've retagged KimSumi21 and its socks to be under RhodesAvenue. Tagging these as confirmed. Closing. <span style="font-family:Iosevka,monospace">0x Deadbeef →∞ (talk to me) 11:28, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

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Similar name and editing patterns. Drowssap SMM  15:37, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

The recreation of a page that had been created by two previous socks is about the only overlap I can find for now, but that combined with the East-Asian pageant focus seems suspicious. Drowssap SMM  16:57, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * Moved case to correct location. : Spicy (talk) 15:50, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, restoring case status. Spicy (talk) 01:54, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


 * appears ❌ to the RhodesAvenue sock group.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Closing with no action. Bbb23 (talk) 00:02, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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Same editing patterns as other accounts that have been previously identified as socks such as, including references to unconfirmed future editions of the UEFA–CONMEBOL Club Challenge in Copa Sudamericana articles such as Special:Diff/1220323101 (similar to what Ronaldinho94 added to the 2023 Copa Sudamericana article), and the planned recreation of an article for the 2024 Maurice Revello Tournament (which has been deleted twice after being created by two socks), this time as a draft. The username ending in 1990 also hints a WP:DUCK. CodeMars04 (talk) 04:13, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * User has been blocked and tagged. Spicy (talk) 22:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)