Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/RioHondo/Archive

05 September 2013

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Implementation of a "so-called decision" as stated by his editing which was only done by a single user named "RioHondo" via a newly created account and insists on things he has bias on articles that all of his edits are the only ones right. Consistent warnings but does not heed to as such. JeromesandilanicoJSD (talk) 16:08, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

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 * When filing a report, you need to provide more evidence, particularly in the way of diffs, so that clerks and administrators can see a relationship between the two accounts. I had to do all the digging myself, and I wasn't impressed. I see a content dispute between you and Na Na Utlog. I see edit warring and acrimonious exchanges between the two of you. There were some edit summaries in which Na Na Utlog said "per RioHondo", but RioHondo hadn't edited the particular pages in over a year, and if Na Na Utlog were trying to escape scrutiny, that would hardly be the way to go about it. You don't point to any similarities in style, and I didn't notice any, although there is less material for the new account than for RioHondo. I doubt that Na Na Utlog is new user and both users are Filipino, but that's hardly enough. If you want to supplement your report, please do. Otherwise, I would recommend closing it with no action.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:41, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * based on my comments and no further evidence from filer. Bbb23 (talk) 17:37, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

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violation of WP:CAST &#123; ᜉ᜔ ᜀ᜔&#124; ໑ &#125; P.A.-II (talk) 08:25, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

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 * Comment. From Talk:Vice President of the Philippines:
 * "@RioHondo, Filipino women have three options on what surname to use as a public figure. Either their maiden name (Grace Poe Llamanzares), married name (Leni Gerona Robredo) or both (Miriam Defensor Santiago. Both Macapagal and Arroyo are her legal surnames in the Philippine context. Her relation to the previous Macapagal president is an important footnote to her bio. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 02:15, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Yup, no issues there. Only their WP:common surnames as referred to in media are President Arroyo (not President Macapagal Arroyo), Senator Santiago (not Senator Defensor Santiago) and Senator Poe (not Senator Poe Llamanzares).--RioHondo (talk) 02:41, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * She is always referred to as "Macapagal Arroyo" not just Arroyo. Try moving the article and see where it gets you. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 03:08, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Her WP:Commonname is really GMA - Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, only her common surname is just Arroyo in all news outlets is what im saying.--RioHondo (talk) 03:12, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Her surname is based on whatever title her name is right now. She uses both surnames now so she must be referred as such. If she drops her dad's name and just use her husband's then the timeline should reflect that. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 03:25, 10 July 2016 (UTC)"


 * Comment. From Talk:President of the Philippines:
 * "@RioHondo, Filipino women have three options on what surname to use as a public figure. Either their maiden name (Grace Poe Llamanzares), married name (Leni Gerona Robredo) or both (Miriam Defensor Santiago. Both Macapagal and Arroyo are her legal surnames in the Philippine context. Her relation to the previous Macapagal president is an important footnote to her bio. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 02:14, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I dont question the custom for Filipino women in politics. I question the use of WP:OFFICIAL names/surnames in Wikipedia. The WP:Common practice for Philippine names is to only have one surname with the maiden surname becoming her middle name.--RioHondo (talk) 02:37, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * If she becomes known as Gloria Arroyo then the "Macapagal" can be dropped but as long as reliable sources use both names then both surnames are to be used. There is also no consistency among Filipina public figures which surname to use: maiden name (Grace Poe Llamanzares, Loren Legarda Leviste, Jamby Madrigal Valade), married name (Corazon Cojuangco Aquino, Imelda Roumualdez Marcos, Leni Gerona Robredo, both (Eva Estrada Kalaw, Miriam Defensor Santiago, Gloria Macapagal Arroyo. And that's just the presidential and vice presidential candidates. There are other women who use either of the three. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 03:04, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, we'll make GMA an exception. Even though she is commonly referred to as just Pres/Congw. Arroyo and her administration, Arroyo Administration.--RioHondo (talk) 03:10, 10 July 2016 (UTC)"


 * Comment. From Talk:Malacañang Palace:

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 * I'm closing this with no action taken. I don't find the evidence presented sufficient enough for a check or a block of the accounts. I've looked at the editor interaction report of the two accounts and found instances where the users were disagreeing on article content (1, 2), disagreeing on how to address the VP of the Philippines (3), and reverting the other's edit (4), among others. This doesn't look like sockpuppetry behavior to me. Mike V • Talk 22:51, 11 July 2016 (UTC)