Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rjecina/Archive

07 January 2011

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Per WP:DUCK both users edit the same articles. The same strong Croatian nationalistic POV changes are entered in a great number of Croatia/Croatian related articles.


 * User:Rjecina was blocked for one year (community ban), then he was re-blocked indefinitely (see here) created new account on April 4th, 2010 as a new User:Kennechten here


 * When editing as User:Rjecina (July 24, August 23, September 9 and 12), he was not editing as User:Kennechten (July 13, August 1, September 15, 17, 22, 29).

This user specialty is Croatian history whitewash. Both User:Rjecina and User:Kennechten followed the same behavioral pattern:

as User:Kennechten see, here, here and Purger,welcome back! as User:Rjecina attack on User:Bizso SPA account
 * calling and marking others (anonymous and registered users) as sockpuppets before entering into a serious discussion


 * identical un-dids of both accounts Rjecina Kennechten


 * attack on the same person DIRECTOR attacked by Rjecina DIRECTOR attacked by Kennecthen


 * attacking the users without giving credible evidence, (see Rjecina's long rant against multiple users and IPs which is identical to those done by Kennechten) without apologizing to attacked users when there was no evidence against them. Kennechten's 'confirmed sockpuppet' false accusation against Brazzi is here. Brazzi is not confirmed puppet of Velebit


 * multiple edits of the cases in a span of several weeks


 * User:Kennechten is definitively not a new user. His/her behavioral pattern shows long time experience identical to the User:Rjecina


 * Ante Starčević article: removal (AP Taylor's quote) and renaming (Racism and anti-Semitism renamed to Controversies by both) of the same sections: User:Rjecina here, here and here User:Kennechten here, here, and here


 * Ante Starčević article: User:Kennechten Removal of profound and notable English reference and replacement by a nationalistic blog.. The same behavior visible in the User:Rjecina edits.


 * His poor English betrays him clearly as User:Rjecina, as per many notes about User:Rjecina in User:Rjecina again. A note from the above link: I wouldn't talk about that if he was a newbie, but I think he had ample opportunities to improve his English skills by now if he wanted to. Probably he doesn't want to do that, so I'm asking you to encourage him to study English to be able to contribute and communicate here more effectively. Squash Racket (talk) 05:33, 23 March 2009 (UTC)  User:Kennechten's language 'skills': His raise was not extreme but it was atypicall for Croat because senior officer were more and more Serbs and Montenegrins.. That his orthography was adopted by Ustaše regime in Independent State of Croatia Franjo Tuđman and Ankica Žumbar have married in city council of Belgrade.They turned the same day on their jobs. Croatia had double more elementary schools than Serbia. (remove to appropriate section) For him, history was not just science. It was also personal devotion,serving to the people as well as practical and ethical guide. During Operation Flash and Operation Storm in Croatia he requested military opoerations by OUN and/or NATO against Croatian army positions. All "proofs" for this "agreement" were based on rumours of the persons that were no present at the meeting. sweat dreams!


 * Nationalistic canvassing in attempt to protect himself from being blocked again here and here — Preceding unsigned comment added by MagnumCrimen (talk • contribs) 17:17, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

MagnumCrimen (talk) 23:58, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

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User:MagnumCrimen is probably sock of User:Velebit- Serbian anti-Croatian SPA warrior

His fixation is Ante Starčević, Ante Pavelić and some other Croatian people from history.--Kennechten (talk) 14:55, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

from time to time he registers new and  does the same thing. Some examples to be done

Reinserting identical article subsections "racism and antisemtitism" in the Ante Starčević
 * (confirmed sock of User:Velebit)
 * 
 * (confirmed sock of User:Velebit)
 * (confirmed sock of User:Velebit)

also others with similar pattern

--Kennechten (talk) 20:48, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: You already failed to prove that MagnumCrimen is sock of Velebit, see here, but you are still ranting against the same user the same way as Rjecina did.  SPA warrior?  The same phrase used by Rjecina while attacking others. A funny way to defend yourself!  As to the MagnumCrimen work on Ante Starčević article, he removed two changes committed by a banned user and put back  a valid reference, which is a valuable contribution.  When I reported a blatant forgery here, which was fixed by Spellcast here, and when I pointed to other bad text here at Ante Starčević, I was attacked immediately by Kennechten here and then accused as being a sock. The same way Kennechten attacked here anonymous 96.231.71.176 for this user voting against move the Neo-nazism in Croatia to Far right in Croatia. See here.  Kennechten, equally as Rjecina, did not apologize to anyone for baseless accusations, rather continued further calling others socks just for sake of disqualifying them. So, there is no doubt Kennechten = Rjecina

--166.32.193.81 (talk) 14:50, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Don't do that, Purger! You will make me cry! LOL. Kennechten (talk) 14:26, 11 January 2011 (UTC) This IP 166.32...... from Verizon (somewhere from Washington area ) is also probably one of the Velebits sock puppets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Velebit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennechten (talk • contribs) 14:31, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Rjecina watch out! You badly referenced your past "achievements" (see your link above): 66.217. ... belongs to PAETEC, not to Verizon. Guess who actually reported 66.217.... as socks? Of course, you Rjecina and you Rjecina again! How you did it? Here is a 'wise' Rjecina's attempt to prove that 66.217....is a sock and here is Ironholds response to Rjecina who says:  "I initially got involved on the other side of the argument (supporting the IP) because from what I could see Rjecina was removing valid information and contributions. The edits were well thought out, useful and explained on the articles' in questions talk pages. Rjecina seems to have something of an obsession following this sort of edit around wikipedia, and i'd advise that such ferverent "vandal"-chasing is a bad idea; when you have a hammer, everything looks like a spade, and I can see people getting wrongly nominated and accused of sockpuppetry as a result"  So, Rjecina, thank you for helping me to better identify you.

--166.32.193.81 (talk) 14:20, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

mr. 166.32.193.81 ... could be more nice and tell use all what username(s) you used before you were blocked forever??? --Kennechten (talk) 17:17, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - The data for Rjecina is stale, so we can't run a CU. We'll have to evaluate this on behavior. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 00:03, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know if this was a bad faith report opened as a response to being accused of sockpuppeting or what, but I can't make heads or tails of it. I'm not really seeing the connection, I guess, so I'm closing for now with no action. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 16:10, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You are apparently not working for Wikipedia. You are working here for your friend Rjecina. You acted promptly to prevent CU here despite the fact that both Rjecina and this Kennechten edited in the span of few days. Then you apparently advise your friend to open another case against MagnumCrimen which you handle the way Rjecina suggested. Now many articles will be heavily damaged, full of nationalistic propaganda and nonsense. This childish way of 'discovering' Velebit's socks shows me that Velebits were 'discovered' in New York, Colorado, Virginia and Maryland, judging by the IP addresses reported as socks.--166.32.193.81 (talk) 11:54, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * No, HelloAnnyong is not officially working for Wikipedia, he is a volunteer for Wikipedia like many others. He declined the CU correctly because CU would get 0 results because of the amount of information they can see. Now, he has come here to solve out the behavoiral on these/you and to make the best decision he can. If you weren't causing the issue in the first place, he wouldn't have to be here 'playing administrator' to solve out the socking that's going on here. He made the best decision he could, you can't ask for more.
 * Now on to a more clerk stand. I see a
 * Wikistalk full of similar articles
 * Removal of identical changes
 * Definitely not a new editor on edit #3
 * And a few more little things.
 * My recommendation here is a block per WP:DUCK and let's close this.

-- DQ  (t)   (e)  15:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I've looked into this case a lot more closely and conferred with another clerk (as seen above). Based on behavioral evidence, I've blocked Kennechten as a sockpuppet of Rjecina. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 15:50, 29 January 2011 (UTC)