Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Robert Warren/Archive

04 September 2012

 * Suspected sockpuppets




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User:Robert Warren is editing mainly in Poland and Polish history related topics. His first edits were adding links to his homepage, where he writes about communist/Russian crimes. He then began to work extensively on the 2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash article, with a slant to add that it is a Russian conspiracy. On 4 June 2010 user:MWoodson appeared with this edit and began to try to add an anti-Russian slant to the article, for which he was congratulated by Robert Warren. MWoodson has not edited since 19 September 2010. On 17 October 2010 Robert Warren returned to edit the Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash article and continued to edit until 23 October 2010 - then he disappeared for 3 weeks. On 24 October 2010 user:WingManFA2 was created and began to edit immediately and almost exclusively at Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash article. His first edit, editing a wiki link in an earlier edit by Robert Warren , mentioning an article, whose writer S. Eugene Poteat Robert Warren has interviewed for his homepage. The article in question was then added to S. Eugene Poteat by WingManFA2 Between 14 October and 26 October 2010 Robert Warren and WingManFA2 also edited Order of Polonia Restituta. WingManFA2 keeps on editing at Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash until 13 November 2010 (then there is a break until 10 February 2011) and on 14 November 2010 Robert Warren returns to the Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash ... 22 June 2012 user:Voyt13 was registered and began to edit immediately and exclusively at Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash but stopped to edit on 7 August 2012. On 19th July Robert Warren came back to edit, on 28 July WingManFA2 came back to edit... ... Today at 15:59 WingManFA2 shows up (after a 29 day break) do not vandalize this article, at 16:24 Robert Warren shows up (after a 25 day break) , is plain and simple vandalism! and while writing this post at 17:15 user:DrJacPhD shows up (after a 7 month break) to vandalize this or other articles. noclador (talk) 15:52, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * PS: Coincidentally all three editors today don't know how to use ":" properly in discussions...
 * WingManFA2 4x "::::" when it should be 1x ":"
 * Robert Warren 8x "::::::::" when it should be 2x ":" respectively 6x "::::::" when it should be 4x ":"
 * DrJacPhD 9x ":::::::::" when it should be 7x ":".
 * noclador (talk) 16:03, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Please check for sleeper socks too. noclador (talk) 18:29, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The likelihood that user:Voyt13 is part of this sock circus has just increased:
 * 21:58 Voyt13 (after a 28 day break)
 * 22:18 WingManFA2
 * coincidence that he comes back right now? noclador (talk) 20:27, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * What a nonsense! I came because I've just received an e-mail with the information of that "investigation" sent automatically by the system when an info appeared on my user page! Voyt13 (talk) 21:00, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

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That's some serious investigative work piece of work !!!!! When I grow up I want to be just like you: all knowing and infallible! Damn, and you discovered this conspiracy on your own. Amazing! Tell you what, rather than pursuing your paranoid visions, I'd suggest you brush up on how to collegially interact with others, so you don't upset their sensitivities. e.i. the edit wars and vandalizing articles are not considered to be particularly collegial by anyone. And this, my friend, is the only response you'll get from me regarding this idiotic accusation. Cheers, Robert --Doomed Soldiers (talk) 16:50, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I've suspected socking here for a while based purely on the soapbox style of writing. One user, one account, please.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 18:32, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Yet another blatant example of why Wikipedia has no credibility in the academia and elsewhere. The "case" is so "adjudicated the Wiki-style" because some kid identifying himself as "WilliamH" deemed it to be so, with little bit of "seems", "likely" and "unlikely". God only knows who he is, what credentials, if any, he has.

So, "WilliamH" "investigated" baseless accusation made by someone calling himself "noclodor" who trashed other editors edits with impunity and again, no one knows who this "noclodor" character is, and what credentials he has, if any. All we know that he is supported by IanMcMan, who most likely is MelbourneOne, and then some - what a farce!

So, what we have here is another "Wikipedia Classic" in the making. Nuff said! --WingManFA2 (talk) 20:18, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I am not User:MilborneOne.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 20:27, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

I categorically declare that I have nothing to do with Robert Warren / WingManFA2 or DrJacPhD and I demand a withdrawal of the absurd accusation. There is no evidence and it looks like a personal attack. Voyt13 (talk) 20:24, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

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 * WingManFA2 is a ✅ sock of Robert Warren, and DrJacPhD pretty much is too. Based on behavioural and technical evidence, it seems more than likely that Voyt13 is operated by the same individual. WilliamH (talk) 18:12, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


 * You are of course welcome to ask for another CheckUser's review of my findings. I don't see how they would come to a different conclusion though. I will reiterate the fact that I don't consider Voyt13 to be operated by the same individual as WingManFA2 and Robert Warren, but it is curious that he should suddenly become aware of this discussion after 28 days of inactivity. Generally speaking, I don't find it baseless at all to suspect accounts with a clear overlap of style, who step out of nowhere to agree with each other though. WilliamH (talk) 21:02, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I have run a second check. Also since Wingman and DrJacPhD are editing via proxies I have indeffblocked them. Concur that Voyt is not connected with either Wingman or DrJacPhd, and thus not lkely to be a sock of Robert Warren. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:22, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

06 October 2012

 * Suspected sockpuppets




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Single purpose account, coming out of nowhere with the same arguments as blocked Robert Warren and his socks. noclador (talk) 11:04, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

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 * If this is Robert Warren, please could he remember that while hiding your IP address is easy, saying exactly the same things over and again in the same writing style sticks out like a sore thumb.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 15:45, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello? why is this case not being investigated? it is endorsed and the guy is continuing to harass an administrator! Hello - anyone around?? noclador (talk) 21:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * this is WP:Duck blocked sock of Robert Warren pushing Diana West and now this sock coming again with Diana West - the only two editors on all the talkpage to come with this lady... also please check for sleepers! noclador (talk) 21:20, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  19:33, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * - The last SPI almost snagged an innocent, as there seems to be plenty of new accounts and SPAs there, endorsing CU for confirmation as the activity does look very suspicious. Dennis Brown - 2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 15:00, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Named account is ✅, although they're still using proxies, so no guarantees on the sleeper checks I'm about to attempt. I will be blocking the proxy ranges, though. No comment on the IP address as per usual. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 00:47, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Didn't see any smoking guns, but blocked some ranges. Two were a webhost with barely any other productive traffic, so they're hardblocked indefinitely. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 00:56, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Vladnot blocked and tagged as a sock. Jafeluv (talk) 01:25, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hardblocked IP 1 month (possibly redundant to rangeblock but playing it safe) and closing.

17 October 2012

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WP:Duck... Robert still thinks it is a smart idea to make a new user and go directly to Talk:2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash and post something about wikipedia does "censor information" about his WP:FRINGE and WP:UNDUE theory. noclador (talk) 14:04, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Checkuser confirms nothing, although this editor does not appear to be using a proxy. With only one edit, it's hard to confirm the duckiness or otherwise. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:55, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * - Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 00:22, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Insufficient evidence to make a determination at this time. Closing. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 00:22, 19 October 2012 (UTC)