Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/RockNRollWiki/Archive

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LisburnThePriest blocked 12 October 2020. RockNRollWiki makes fist edit on 19 October 2020 after being inactive since April 2020.

LisburnThePriest edits vs RockNRollWiki edits:

LtP @ Greedy People vs RNRW @ Greedy People

LtP @ The Electric Hippies vs RNRW @ The Electric Hippies

LtP @ Patent Pending (album) vs RNRW @ Patent Pending (album)

Another similarity in their edits is their interest in categories, as well as the excessive speedy deletion nominations of said categories on their respective talk pages.  Rob van  vee  06:38, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * I have thought this for months because of the category creations and the fact that RockNRollWiki stopped significant contributions in September 2017, the same time that LisburnPriest began. RockNRollWiki's return right after LisburnPriest being blocked can't be a coincidence. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 07:47, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * - the timings of when RockNRollWiki stopped editing and LisburnThePriest was created, and when LisburnThePriest was blocked and then RockNRollWiki starts editing again I suspicious. Endorsing for a check as if this is the case, RockNRollWiki was used as a sleeper account to evade a block (so there may be more of these sleeping accounts). The evidence presented in the diffs also suggests a link. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:42, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ --  Amanda  (aka DQ) 17:01, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * sock. Tagged sock. Close. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 18:18, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, moved the case to the oldest account. Re-tagged. Close again. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 18:22, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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IP is a new and recent editor adding genre categories to albums and songs by artist categories and film articles. Their contributions indicate a similar editing pattern of the sockmaster. IP has already received warnings on their talk page for adding unsupported genres, one of the reasons the sockmaster was blocked. Sockmaster also recently requested an unblock, but failed to respond to administrator questions. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:18, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Army_of_Darkness&type=revision&diff=1042432140&oldid=1040766517
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Predators_%28film%29&type=revision&diff=1042456106&oldid=1041360737


 * It has only been 4 edits, but I think RNRW is now editing as User:86.136.154.103. I have added it to the list above. The previous IP has not edited since September 15. This new one is in the same range and has similar editing patterns of adding genre categories to subcategories of Category:Songs by artist. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 07:26, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Added IP 86.136.154.105 who has just recently started editing. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 16:28, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

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The majority of RNRW and confirmed sock User:LisburnThePriest's edits are to the genres of subcategories under Category:Songs by artist and Category:Albums by artist. The last four edits to Category:Cher Lloyd songs were by Lisburn, another suspected IP sock and the latest IP. Recent edits by User:86.136.152.237 have updated categories to Category:British dance-pop songs, a category created by LisburnThePriest. RNRW's history is to create and populate albums by genre and artist nationality categories (such as Category:Indie pop albums by Swiss artists), which this sock also shows this same proclivity. For example, the IP added Category:Psychedelic rock albums by American artists (a category created by LisburnThePriest) to Category:Steve Burns albums (a category created by RockNRollWiki). Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 18:05, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Diff for Category:Tich (singer) songs
 * Diff for Category:Cher Lloyd songs
 * Diff for Category:Pet Shop Boys songs

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 * - Genre warring is highly popular hobby.  You're going to need to show more specific evidence that this IP really is RNRW as opposed to just somebody else who's into genre hacking. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:31, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing enough to convince me this is block evasion. For example, you say that the IP edited Category:Psychedelic rock albums by American artists which was created by a previous sock, but they also edited Category:Tich (singer) songs, which was created by .  I doubt that make them a BHG sock.  I'll leave this for somebody else to take another look at. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:55, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * But it was edited by multiple IPs (both of whom I believe are socks of RNRW) in which they narrow categories (regardless of who originally created them) to a more specific genre or country (e.g. dance-pop songs to British dance-pop songs), which is where they get into trouble because it will often veer into non-supported genres. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 23:22, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Another thing to note is that these are the only types of edits this person (master and puppets) makes, while BHG has a wide range of editing habits. Thanks. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 00:01, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


 * IPs are now . Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  21:10, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
This is the return of User:RockNRollWiki (aka User:LisburnThePriest). This user shares the same MO in that they work exclusively on categories, creating and then populating, within music genres ("[genre] albums by Fooian artists") and subcategories under Category:Albums by artist with the occasional dabble into horror films.

LisburnThePriest was blocked in October 2020 for changing genres without proper sourcing and failing to communicate when the issues were brought up. They returned to using the previously created account which led to the first sockpuppet investigation over three years ago. They continued popping up as an IP for a while after that within the 86.136 range and became a little fed up after I called him out on it a year and a half ago (see User talk:86.136.152.19). They've been pretty quiet since but the abundance of new category creations within those same areas caught my attention.

Here is an edit by an IP in that same range on the page List of holiday horror films (whose last edit was on December 22) followed not long after by this edit by the recently created CrackheadSmackin account (whose first edit was on December 22). LisburnThePriest created and populated Category:Folk horror films.

There is much shared interaction between LisburnThePriest and CrackheadSmackin with category refinements and some articles that are in such categories. For example, LTP created Category:Members Only (hip hop collective) albums and added it to Members Only, Vol. 3 with this edit, while CHS recently modified both the category (see here) and the article (see here). Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 04:24, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * The Wordsmith Talk to me 01:08, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * , archiving. Courcelles (talk) 15:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)