Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rojin416/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
I'll make it short. For more details, please see the ANI thread

A day after Rojin416's block, Volkish Kurden started editing.

For merely opposing their WP:TENDENTIOUS edits, both made random attacks/aspersions towards me, accusing me of anti-Kurdish behaviour and whatnot. It's the classical "don't agree with me? well you must be racist then!"

Volkish Kurden:

"I decided to skim through your “contributions” to Kurdish articles and have found you constantly use the “right great wrongs” as a way to circumvent the removal of a kurdophobe from wikipedia, I would say that is a very smart move but it is fuelling the misinformation about Kurds."

"merely using your logic against you, plus abhorrent kurdophobia is clearly bannable"

Rojin416:

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1154806082 The citation is right there. Infront of you. Maybe learn how to read and get rid of that vendetta you have against Kurds.]

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1154805565 I'm not attacking you. You have a very clear political vendetta. It's very evident from your history regarding Kurds.] HistoryofIran (talk) 18:36, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, this is far from fishing. It even says in Volkish Kurdens block log "likely sock or meat", which was suspected in the ANI thread by two other users, one of them being the same admin who indeffed them . Moreover, I created this SPI when Volkish Kurden was already indeffed, so this is not some attempt at getting back at them if that what it seems like. I'd say all this is plenty credible evidence to suspect sockpuppetry. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:50, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Gotcha, but how do you recommend I do that? Am I allowed to request another checkuser here? Or perhaps there's a better way to do it? --HistoryofIran (talk) 02:12, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

I would just like to add that whilst I am not against an SPI check, the coincidence of me editing after Rojin416 is as it is: a coincidence, it was merely THANKS to the ANI against Rojin416 which made me No personal attacks and not Assume good faith but this has been cleared up thanks to admin advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volkish Kurden (talk • contribs) 21:10, 27 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Nothing has been "cleared up", you were just given a last chance, which I was flabbergasted by. Randomly acting sorry and apologizing right after greatly insulting me and making a show was a tactic used by Rojin416 too . HistoryofIran (talk) 11:19, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * . While there is obviously tension and some very unpleasant things being said, these need to be addressed at ANI. There isn't enough to warrant a check here despite Volkish Kurden's non-opposition to it. The CU policy still applies all the same. Rojin416 is already indefinitely blocked and aside from a broad topic area, no evidence of clear block evasion, or socking. That being said, I'd strongly advise both of you to disengage to avoid further problems. Mkdw  talk 21:40, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * If you can find another CU or clerk willing to do or endorse a check, then I won't stop it, but in my view, the bar to run a check here is higher than the evidence presented. Mkdw  talk 01:53, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I've re-opened the request for another CU or clerk to review. Mkdw  talk 09:50, 6 June 2023 (UTC)


 * - I agree that there needs to be more than just two accounts editing in the same highly-charged topic area. Looking at the public data, I see some hints that these are not the same person, so moving back to CU declined. RoySmith (talk) 23:11, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Let's close this: I do not see why these two editors would be identical, and I agree with RoySmith. Drmies (talk) 00:14, 16 July 2023 (UTC)