Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SAYUL KOLKATA TEAM/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
All evidence (they post logs everytime they edit) can be found at their website. The abuse here was discussed at the WP:DISCORD. This is not a comprehensive list. Currently it only includes accounts used by SAYUL in India, Argentina, Canada, Morocco, Brazil, Turkey, Spain, Malaysia, and the UK. The other countries need to be combed through and added. Pinging. : 3 F4U (they/it) 23:16, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Not sure if I'm allowed to reply in this section, so strike my comments if need be, but I would note that the statements on the website suggest that these accounts represent multiple people off-wiki who collaborate to get an article published (which would go against WP:ROLE). For example, their guidance page states that SAYUL Korean manager will revise the draft written by you and the logs generally specify multiple authors, even though one account is publishing the article. : 3 F4U (they/it) 01:10, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Moved from below. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 02:48, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
 * Also Snowmanonahoe (talk) 23:24, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Some information: This appears to be an education program website where users create an account and submit an article to be added to a Wikipedia (in various languages). After being reviewed and revised by the site operators, they make the edit (or in some cases the users do so themselves). The site does not handle copyright properly, and the operators do not provide attribution on Wikipedia. Snowmanonahoe (talk) 23:29, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * As well, the articles published by this organization have a long history of copyvios. See here, here, here, here, and here. : 3 F4U (they/it) 23:33, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Their 'guidance' page Snowmanonahoe (talk) 23:33, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I've looked at a handful of these, and there's clearly a lot of issues, particularly in the copyvio area. There's a few others, too - SAYUL KOLKATA TEAM is blocked as a promo-only account, and Dalie747 has previously been to SPI (see Sockpuppet_investigations/Dalie747/Archive). Based on the evidence from the filers, there's little question that these accounts are related. However, my spot checks with CU don't show technical overlap - different ranges. My gut says that these are mostly different people. The question, therefore, is whether this is blockable. They're in a weird gray area between "giant editathon" and "large-scale meatpuppetry" and I'm not sure where the needle falls right now. Would appreciate the opinions of others. GeneralNotability (talk) 23:57, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Given the frequency of copyvio here, I tend to see this as evading scrutiny, deliberately or not. My inclination would be to block all/most recent accounts and leave a note that if the SAYUL facilitators are interested in setting up properly-disclosed, policy-compliant classes, that's something we can talk about. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 02:48, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * go for it. GeneralNotability (talk) 23:46, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Alrighty. So:


 * 103.220.210.147 and 103.217.243.20 have no enwiki edits. Noting also, for the record, as a stale sock of Dalie747. Closing.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 01:02, 3 May 2023 (UTC)