Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Saguamundi/Archive

Report date May 2 2009, 00:50 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

ip sent out over 100 talk page notices canvassing support of a CFD nom made by puppeteer Beeblebrox (talk) 00:50, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by Beeblebrox (talk)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments


 * Conclusions

Already blocked. Closing. Peter Symonds ( talk ) 14:53, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

25 March 2011

 * Suspected sockpuppets




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systematical edit warring and suppression of references on the page Spain and Geography of Spain. This user does not want to participate to the debates in the talk pages (Spain or others). I have sent him once a message on december 11th, and a second on march 16th. Milkrawler (talk) 20:31, 25 March 2011 (UTC)


 * disruptive edits (without explanation) on the article Spain and with the same edits (climatic map)([])and Geography of Spain ([] [] []
 * All these IP come from Ankara, Turkey, and Menikure is also Turkish (http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kullan%C4%B1c%C4%B1:Menikure)
 * Saguamundi has made the same disruptive edit on the French wiki on March 12, 1:58 am (http://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Espagne&diff=63110117&oldid=63033059), while Menikure has done the same edit on the article "Spain" on March 11, 23:33, and one of the vandals-IP above has did the same edit in the same time on the page "Geography of Spain"(March 11, 23:26).

The single "duck-test" is enough to conclude that they are the same.

I have sent him once a message on december 11th, and a second on march 16th.

"The users listed have not been edit warring because no mention of spain comes up in that report"

You might want to joke. See all the evidences above. It would be a huge coincidence that suddenly some different users from Ankara want to edit the climatic section of Spain in the same period. Milkrawler (talk) 19:31, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Sorry, I'm having a hard time finding actual evidence that shows these two are the same. Can you provide some diffs to back up your claims? —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 22:27, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The users listed have not been edit warring because no mention of spain comes up in that report. Per HelloAnnyong and that, closing. -- DQ  (t)   (e)  13:21, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * How come this didn't close...idk. Anyway closing. -- DQ  (t)   (e)  20:53, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

21 October 2011

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Multiple disruptive edits in the English and French wiki (deletion of references, maps...), especially in articles about climatology.--Cooler88 (talk) 19:09, 21 October 2011 (UTC) Cooler88 (talk) 19:09, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * Although this report was opened by a now-blocked sock, it's clear that the IP is someone. I've blocked it for a week. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 01:59, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

19 April 2012

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The User: Noraton is a sock of the semi permanently blocked user User: Saguamundi. This user is edit warring in the Roman Catholicism in Europe and Religion in Europe articles and has done so lately under a range of IPs starting with 88.224 for a long long period. He did this previously using - now blocked socks - including User:Van de Kemp, User:Maphobbyist. Took a while to detect him but refer to my talk page User: GRSD where he is actually annoucing his actions using one of his many 88.224 IPs but later on complies with this action using the User: Noraton sock name. Saguamundi has been blocked various times for using socks. This person is rather elusive using different IPS rather hard to catch him. Grsd (talk) 22:31, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The User:Grsd who is a sockpuppet of the permanently blocked user pages User:Peterniels2 and User:Its-thor and User:Ruud64 is the sockpuppet of the user pages User:Peterniels and User:Saguamundi which are not blocked. This user has a history edit warring in the Roman Catholicism in Europe and Religion in Europe articles and has done so under these names in the two articles for a long time. The User: Saguamundi who has done sockpuppetry is always following my editions and I believe that the user User:Grsd who has done sokcpuppetry is also the same user.


 * The allegations of the user is absolutely false, because the sockpuppet User:Grsd/User:Saguamundi is delibaretely deceiving, by misleading others to thinks that I am the User:Saguamundi, while continuing to edit under his/hers other sock names (which he/she created when his/hers other sock pages were blocked).


 * Noraton (talk) 09:39, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Can you provide evidence (usually diffs) that show a connection between Noraton and Saguamundi? I don't see it in your report. TN X Man 15:18, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Wait a minute. Grsd has accused Noraton of being Saguamundi. At the same time, Noraton accuses Grsd of being Saguamundi. When two people accuse each other of the same thing, it leads me to believe that you're harassing each other and would be better served by leaving the other alone. I'll mark this for close and would strongly encourage the two of you to disengage before you end up blocked. TN X Man  16:06, 20 April 2012 (UTC)